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and he's separating them from theirs, just watch. I doubt any will turn from D to R, but they won't show up to the polls next election. just watch. I don't know 100% why he's doing things, but I do have faith that he's thinking 2 or more steps ahead than I am able to. he didn't get to be where he is by being stupid, giving up and pulling punches. I'm surprised at how many here think he's rolling over.

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” - Sun tzu

seems many here got roped just like nancy and chuck

This national emergency business is a very slippery slope. What's to stop the next Dim president from declaring a national emergency after a bad school shooting?
Just because we really really want a border wall doesn't justify a national emergency.

Yep, and after being lassoed with the same rope before, Colorado. Youd think they'll get rope burned after a while.

The left is betting their ass stopping the wall is their only hope to keep him from getting back in and screwing them over again.

MAGA with a bunch of liliy livered friends.

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Likely true but sad given the Dems work growing their base. No wall, [bleep] it...

As to the question of land aquisition for the wall, wouldn't there be some sort of right away at the border already?

It will require a lot less land than an interstate highway, and do a lot more benefit to the nation. The gov't takes land every day for highways.

Any conservative savvy enough to be with him on the wall is also savvy enough to see the obstruction and lies from the left, and lack of allies from his own camp. Those folks aren't going anywhere.

I'm actually surprised at the lack of resolve exhibited by some here.

It's not like there's another choice. There isn't anybody else riding in on a white horse to save the day.

Get a clue, Peoples.

Surely you don’t think they decide where they want a road and six months later they are clearing a right of way. It takes years sometimes for all the lawsuits to work their way thru the Courts. In this instance you have a bunch of special interests groups who will also be filing lawsuits along with Landowners.

The Feds claim a slice of land adjacent to the border for patrolling. As far as in Texas, they have Big Bend Natl Park which has about 140 miles of River frontage, I believe. Apart from that, it’s all privately owned.

One thing that’s never discussed, because most of the people discussing it have never been near the border, is that once the Feds have acquired the land along the river, they have to have a way to get men and materials for the wall down to it. In the Trans Pecos there are no public roads to speak of getting from Hwy 90 down to the river. You may have to cross through a dozen ranches getting down there so that means a lot of easements and roads to be built.

It would destroy the ecology of that whole area for something that is entirely unnecessary.

I don’t know where they want to put the 234 miles of fencing that’s being asked for, but it’s not needed in the only land they already own...BBNP.

It is telling that y’all are giving credibility to Pelosi’s claim that this whole Wall Fiasco is about nothing more than Trump keeping a campaign promise. Your main concern is about how it may impact the election, not if it will aid border security.

Trump is convinced he needs a wall and I’ll guarantee you he has no idea where to build it.

Google Chispa Road and spend some time on google earth. You’ll only be looking at about eighty miles of Border. Increase that by an order of magnitude and you still haven’t covered the Texas border. And...unlike many of us..... you haven’t actually SEEN it.

You’ve been played, big time.

Probably why it costs 5.7 billion. which we all know is gvt speak for it'll be closer to 10 when it's done. either way, it's still 140 billion less than obama GAVE to iran.

I've always wondered, why don't they just build the wall along Interstate 10 from California all the way to where it runs along the border in Texas? No eminant domain issues, no problems with access, etc ...Then fiind out which ranchers in Texas are pro wall and build on their land first, if necessary; especially the ranches that have easier access...Any of the ranchers south of the wall could get access in and out through ports of entry/ exit where their is 24/7 security and border patrol, scanners, etc...

They would have to change the stupid asylum laws about stepping foot on U.S. soil and getting automatic refugee status if they qualify.

I ain’t in favor of the Feds giving Mexico a bunch of land THAT IS NOT THEIRS TO GIVE AWAY and ALL of the river which is what you are proposing.

I 10 to Van Horn and then Hwy 90 on eastward has been the de facto border for many years. The land between the highways and the river is almost a no man’s land. The BP only goes down there when they are called or a sensor is tripped.

Gene, i want the wall built to stop mexican and foreign nationals and drugs and human trafficking at the border.

Im sayiny the reason Pilosi is against the wall it to screw Trump. Also, its hard to carry kids over a wall, which is another reason she cant have a wall.

Where do YOU want to build the Wall?

No one has to take your posts out of context to see that your efforts are helping the left's agenda.

Lets just move the border to the other side of the river and build a big fuggin wall over there. WTF is Mexico gonna do about it ? It ain't like we haven't taken land from them before and the pricks absolutely are and have been invading the US for quite some time.

I don't think some of y'all understand how this works at all. When the government eminent domain's you, they TAKE the land they need either for themselves or some fooking big business and you get paid whatever they deem fair. Then construction begins. That's how it works. You can sue to your heart's content and the courts can do what they want, but it gets done and there's very little you can do about it. That's when national security is not at stake-just some railroad or pipeline or fooking highline that the company or government thinks best to go through wherever they want it to. To my mind anyway, this is more important and if there were ever a case where eminent domain truly was necessary and right, this is it. Construction can begin tomorrow. All it takes is the order on Trump's part. I can't believe all this talk of the military defying the CIC. "Illegal orders"? Wtff? Some Loot could give the order to whack a couple of civilians and everybody would be like, "you gotta do what they tell you or you'll get court martialed" but let somebody say we're gonna doze some chit for a wall and everybody's suddenly ready to bow down to Pelosi.

Who is giving away any land? The border is still where the historic boundaries says it is in the scenario im talking about.....We are just building a barrier/ smart wall along our southernmost interstate in the area with controlled entry/ exit points to put a huge dent in the drug trafficking/ human smuggling to 90 plus percent of the rest of the country. You dont have to call it the border...The people south of the barrier would still be on US soil up to the historic border and still have the protection of our law enforcement, military, national guard, etc.....If any part of the Interstate dips into Mexico then dont build the wall there or build it on our side of the interstate.

Let's see em smuggle drugs or people up to the rest of the country through that without getting quickly caught when all the entry/exit points have scanners/ law enforcement, etc., and there is a million eyes up and down the Interstate all day/ everyday...

Also, Change the stupid asylum laws around setting foot on US soil...

Here's another thing: I'm neither a border expert, nor do I live there, but I've read about it and watched what is going on for years and from what I understand, the Cartels control either by ownership or intimidation, a lot of the land ON THIS SIDE of the border. You think that Cartel proxies whether through loyalty or because they don't want their family's head chopped off, are going to go right along with a wall? The ranchers who are still fighting with the druggies and wets WANT some help. The others are obstructing.