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It's not so much as Democrats like Cortez that worry me, as it is the 50% of Americans that voted for Hillary Clinton. These are the dangerous ones, because they don't care what direction the country takes, just as long as they can get free healthcare, food stamps, education, abortions, housing, preferential hiring at jobs, and every other freebie that comes down the pike. I hate to say it, but if it weren't for abortion we would have been run over by now. AGREE
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No...
You didn’t “ learn “ anything. You bought a ticket to the game. You go from one shiny object to another and regurgitate whatever crap Trump fills you with. You buy his ideas then buy his excuses.
Cruz and Rand Paul ...just to mention two of the 2016 candidates.... are known quantities as far as the 2A is concerned and would have nominated the SC Justices recvomended by the SJC just as Trump did.
Your interests would be better served by becoming a single issue voter.
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anything that kills the Democratic and Socialist party is good
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Politico had a pretty good aritcle about here I just read
She was sponsored by a group called Justice Democrats. They were all in on Bernie and once they realized Bernie couldn't win they started targeted more localized candidates. Cortez was the only one they backed that won.
Their approach is to interject a moral viewpoint into a platform issue to make it a stark radical choice and hope it resonates with the voter - such as if you are a climate change denier then you are responsible for the deaths of people who have died due to floods, famine, wildfire - whatever they can attach to it
or if you are for immigration control then you support tearing families apart.
They position everything as black and white.
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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Interesting 2A debate going on. Interesting on how people collect information and formulate opinions. I was at the Dallas Safari Club 3 weeks ago. I talked to two notable people about Trump and his 2A stance.
The first was Col. Allen West. He's an impressive no bullcrap man. He is 100% certain that Trump will stand strong on 2A, and when I questioned the bump stock thing, West assured me that is a political throw away that could and probably will die in court as soon as someone wants to challenge it. Because a bump stock requires the trigger to be actuated with each firing, it is no different that pulling the trigger quickly. His words. Says it is obvious to him the wording in the XO was made to be defeated. It affects virtually no one, can be successfully challenged in court setting precedence, and takes the issue out of the Democrats hands all the while allowing Trump to say to detractors he acted on senseless gun violence.
Next person I talked to on the subject was Donald Trump Jr. Yes, he was there Thursday of the show. First of all, to show up at DSC in support of hunting and 2A is major sign of support with the hunting/shooting industry being a major target of the Left. Don Jr. is a big hunter and 2A advocate, and assured everyone that Sr. is too, or otherwise Jr. wouldn't be supporting such causes with such a high profile or enthusiasm.
Now, you can dismiss this a playing politics if you wish, but these two guys showed up in the lion's den, walked amongst the crowd, took pictures, answered questions, and truly looked to be enjoying themselves. They were there showing support for hunting and shooting. They both assured me and others that the White House stands with them. So what is more likely? DJT sends his son to DSC to bullschitt everyone there, or that he's a supporter?
#Neversatisfied crowd would have just be jaded and shrug this off as empty rhetoric. I'm waiting for "He lied about the Wall too!". All the while, Trump continues to fight the Dems to get it. The #Neversatisfied are pissed that all 2000 miles of aren't built yet, therefore we've been betrayed. That sort of malarky.
I am not worried about Trump taking my 2A rights. I AM worried that should Trump not get re-elect that CHUCK SCHUMER damn sure will come after them! Which is more likely, Schumer or Trump gets the guns? Schumer has been doing it for 30+ years. Let's say Schumer has a Dem President, House and Senate, who's getting your guns in 2021? It won't be DJT!
Time to worry about real threats, and not those imagined or dreamed up from fretful paranoia.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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a moral viewpoint into a platform issue to make it a stark radical choice and hope it resonates so lie and hope they fall for it 
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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Yeah, she’s the new face of the democrat party aimed at the millennial group. She’ll be put in charm school and will be very palatable to many in just a few short years.
She's a nothing. IQ of a French poodle. Her 15 minutes of fame will come and go just like Cynthia McKinney did. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinneyIf you want to be concerned about the next dangerous Dem, look at Gavin Newsmen. He's building his resumé. He'll take Feinstein's Senate seat and will be more radical, just like Kamala is worse than Barbara Boxer (and not as smart). Newsome wants to be President and is a slimy clever bastard. Beware!
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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My father in law is an old union Democrat that believed the republicans were the party of the rich and Dem's were for the working man. After 8 yrs of Obama and Trump getting elected he has finally seen the light and hates Dem's now. He is a stubborn old goat and if he can change sides I believe there is hope many of theses yankee union Dem's can also.... He thinks Trump is great..... so there is hope for people like Curdog 45/70.....  I was willing to be convinced after he got the nomination that Trump was who y’all thought he was . He seemed to me to be a more or less typical NYC blowhard with enough Liberal tendencies to be scary to a single issue voter like me. I’ve stated several times on this forum that getting all wrapped up in the political intrigues of BOTH major parties is akin to paying your entry fee for a rigged contest. The only way our individual votes can have any impact is to pick out ONE issue and vote based on that.You should not choose taxes or deficit spending as your issue. In fact, you should not pick any issue that can be quantified since both sides can make numbers dance to their tune. The 2A or Abortion make make excellent single issues since they are fairly clear cut, at least in comparison most other issues. I chose the 2A as my issue decades ago and have never wavered on it. Cruz had the strongest 2A credentials of all the 2016 candidates so I supported him in the primaries. It really is that simple. So, your FIL can find something about Trump to make him start supporting him. Everything I’ve seen and heard from Trump points to my original concerns about him being justified, so I’ll stay with my original assessment. Those of us who were adults in the ‘ sixties and saw the pendulum swinging ever more in the direction of outright confiscation of firearms will have a different mindset than those who only know of it as history taught by right wingers. Thankfully, that movement was reversed at the State levels....no thanks to the Feds. Any nudge of the pendulum back in the wrong direction..like bump stocks and red flag laws.... should result in outrage by the gun community. All I hear is MAGA. Yeah, unfortunately Cruz couldn't even win the phugking primary, so there is that.
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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The left, democrats, liberals, communist, socialist, and islamites, they want power and control of the people. They hate Americans, the Constitution, and the USA. They are enemies and traitors. Their agendas do not allow the Constitution to exist. There is no place in the Constitution or the USA for sharia law.
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Yeah, she’s the new face of the democrat party aimed at the millennial group. She’ll be put in charm school and will be very palatable to many in just a few short years.
She's a nothing. IQ of a French poodle. Her 15 minutes of fame will come and go just like Cynthia McKinney did. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinneyIf you want to be concerned about the next dangerous Dem, look at Gavin Newsmen. He's building his resumé. He'll take Feinstein's Senate seat and will be more radical, just like Kamala is worse than Barbara Boxer (and not as smart). Newsome wants to be President and is a slimy clever bastard. Beware! Time will tell but beware the millennial vote. You’re right about Newsome.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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The left, democrats, liberals, communist, socialist, and islamites, they want power and control of the people. They hate Americans, the Constitution, and the USA. They are enemies and traitors. Their agendas do not allow the Constitution to exist. There is no place in the Constitution or the USA for sharia law. I've heard that somewhere before...
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Yeah, unfortunately Cruz couldn't even win the phugking primary, so there is that. Probably because of his voting record.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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Yeah, she’s the new face of the democrat party aimed at the millennial group. She’ll be put in charm school and will be very palatable to many in just a few short years.
She's a nothing. IQ of a French poodle. Her 15 minutes of fame will come and go just like Cynthia McKinney did. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinneyIf you want to be concerned about the next dangerous Dem, look at Gavin Newsmen. He's building his resumé. He'll take Feinstein's Senate seat and will be more radical, just like Kamala is worse than Barbara Boxer (and not as smart). Newsome wants to be President and is a slimy clever bastard. Beware! Time will tell but beware the millennial vote. You’re right about Newsome. I hear ya on both accounts.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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“Cruz and Rand Paul ...just to mention two of the 2016 candidates.... are known quantities as far as the 2A is concerned and would have nominated the SC Justices recvomended by the SJC just as Trump did.”
Is that why they stood sucking their thumbs the last 2 years only to introduce the HPA after democrats took control? Sorry but your idols aren’t nearly as pro 2nd as I wish they were and you believe they are.
Known quantities are comforting for those satisfied with ineffective government and those that don’t have any reasonable expectations of anything getting done other than endless bullish.it lip service. Trump was elected because the “known quantities” suck ass and we’re sick of the known quantity status quo. Don’t get me wrong, there’s far worse politicians than Canadian Cruz or Rand Paul but they’re not exactly the second coming, they’re politicians that thrive in gridlock. 😉
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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No way. People love her. ![[Linked Image]](https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/dance-6adc.gif)
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anything that kills the Democratic and Socialist party is good That's true, but Cortez is just the tip of the iceberg. We're going to see more like her, as the Democrats lean more and more to the Left. They're not going away. If anything, they'll just keep getting stronger. People are like sheep, they can be willingly led to the slaughter.
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Are you kidding? With guys around as stupid as diddler, jello, djs, callnum, sickermore, la Roy, etc?
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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It is cause for concern that supporters of a Republican President are compelled to defend his statements about firearms on a pro gun website. His troubling statements about bump stocks and red flag laws were completely voluntary and likely to mirror his thinking exactly.
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My father in law is an old union Democrat that believed the republicans were the party of the rich and Dem's were for the working man. After 8 yrs of Obama and Trump getting elected he has finally seen the light and hates Dem's now. He is a stubborn old goat and if he can change sides I believe there is hope many of theses yankee union Dem's can also.... He thinks Trump is great..... so there is hope for people like Curdog 45/70..... I was willing to be convinced after he got the nomination that Trump was who y’all thought he was . He seemed to me to be a more or less typical NYC blowhard with enough Liberal tendencies to be scary to a single issue voter like me. I’ve stated several times on this forum that getting all wrapped up in the political intrigues of BOTH major parties is akin to paying your entry fee for a rigged contest. The only way our individual votes can have any impact is to pick out ONE issue and vote based on that.You should not choose taxes or deficit spending as your issue. In fact, you should not pick any issue that can be quantified since both sides can make numbers dance to their tune. The 2A or Abortion make make excellent single issues since they are fairly clear cut, at least in comparison most other issues. I chose the 2A as my issue decades ago and have never wavered on it. Cruz had the strongest 2A credentials of all the 2016 candidates so I supported him in the primaries. It really is that simple. So, your FIL can find something about Trump to make him start supporting him. Everything I’ve seen and heard from Trump points to my original concerns about him being justified, so I’ll stay with my original assessment. Those of us who were adults in the ‘ sixties and saw the pendulum swinging ever more in the direction of outright confiscation of firearms will have a different mindset than those who only know of it as history taught by right wingers. Thankfully, that movement was reversed at the State levels....no thanks to the Feds. Any nudge of the pendulum back in the wrong direction..like bump stocks and red flag laws.... should result in outrage by the gun community. All I hear is MAGA. Yeah, unfortunately Cruz couldn't even win the phugking primary, so there is that. to say nothing of being able to beat klinton.
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It is cause for concern that supporters of a Republican President are compelled to defend his statements about firearms on a pro gun website. His troubling statements about bump stocks and red flag laws were completely voluntary and likely to mirror his thinking exactly.
guess you'll be voting dem next time ?
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