Cpl knows what he knows, what you guys don't understand is that he plans to fly those 178 ELD's in a 300 RUM cartridge in the Bombay doors of his Cabelas drone straight to the target and pickle it 2' over the target. Now that is flat just like he says. You guys are just imagination short. MB
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
My 300 Ultra Mag Buddy is back...I love the 300 RUM
Jordan, Be nice. We all know the .30 cal is far superior for slipping the airstream than say a .284 with it’s increase in velocity versus decrease of a .30 cal...Whaaat! How’s that possible? Jordan, please explain why this is so. 😎
300 PRC still doesn’t have an appeal for me. Like the 300 Norma. I’m just gonna slum the slower 300 Ultra for big furs.
.300 RUM/225 ELD, 7WSM/180 ELD. I used my actual velocity in the 7WSM with 25" barrel and compared both using pressure-tested data and QL. I gave the RUM every advantage I could- 1000 psi higher peak pressure, an extra inch of barrel, etc. Sucks to burn nearly 40 gr more powder with every shot, and still come in 2nd place
My 300 Ultra Mag Buddy is back...I love the 300 RUM
Jordan, Be nice. We all know the .30 cal is far superior for slipping the airstream than say a .284 with it’s increase in velocity versus decrease of a .30 cal...Whaaat! How’s that possible? Jordan, please explain why this is so. 😎
300 PRC still doesn’t have an appeal for me. Like the 300 Norma. I’m just gonna slum the slower 300 Ultra for big furs.
.300 RUM/225 ELD, 7WSM/180 ELD. I used my actual velocity in the 7WSM with 25" barrel and compared both using pressure-tested data and QL. I gave the RUM every advantage I could- 1000 psi higher peak pressure, an extra inch of barrel, etc. Sucks to burn nearly 40 gr more powder with every shot, and still come in 2nd place
This is awesome data!
Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
.300 RUM/225 ELD, 7WSM/180 ELD. I used my actual velocity in the 7WSM with 25" barrel and compared both using pressure-tested data and QL. I gave the RUM every advantage I could- 1000 psi higher peak pressure, an extra inch of barrel, etc. Sucks to burn nearly 40 gr more powder with every shot, and still come in 2nd place
Cpl knows what he knows, what you guys don't understand is that he plans to fly those 178 ELD's in a 300 RUM cartridge in the Bombay doors of his Cabelas drone straight to the target and pickle it 2' over the target. Now that is flat just like he says. You guys are just imagination short. MB
This belongs in the UFO thread. Lol
Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
My 300 Ultra Mag Buddy is back...I love the 300 RUM
Jordan, Be nice. We all know the .30 cal is far superior for slipping the airstream than say a .284 with it’s increase in velocity versus decrease of a .30 cal...Whaaat! How’s that possible? Jordan, please explain why this is so. 😎
300 PRC still doesn’t have an appeal for me. Like the 300 Norma. I’m just gonna slum the slower 300 Ultra for big furs.
.300 RUM/225 ELD, 7WSM/180 ELD. I used my actual velocity in the 7WSM with 25" barrel and compared both using pressure-tested data and QL. I gave the RUM every advantage I could- 1000 psi higher peak pressure, an extra inch of barrel, etc. Sucks to burn nearly 40 gr more powder with every shot, and still come in 2nd place
Thank you Jordan...And that is why I own both. A 7WSM and a 300 Ultra. I hate 3rd place finisher. 😎
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
The '300 Remington Ultra Magnum Cartridge' performance speaks for itself but Hornady makes these ELD bullets and they stand behind the 300 RUM .
" The 300 Remington Ultra Mag. in factory loads can push a 180gr bullet out at 3,300fps from a 26" barrel. Given the cartridge's preference for slower burning powder's, the long barrel helps exploit the full potential of the round. "
" The new 220gr ELD-X bullet was designed for cartridge's like the 300 Ultra Mag, where you can combine a low drag, accurate hunting bullet with a profile that doesn't require seating past MAX COL."
Hornady ' Handbook of Cartridge Reloading ' Tenth Edition
" You can lead a Horse to water but you can't make him drink. "
.300 RUM/225 ELD, 7WSM/180 ELD. I used my actual velocity in the 7WSM with 25" barrel and compared both using pressure-tested data and QL. I gave the RUM every advantage I could- 1000 psi higher peak pressure, an extra inch of barrel, etc. Sucks to burn nearly 40 gr more powder with every shot, and still come in 2nd place
So what does a 180gr bullet and a 225gr bullet have in common ? … NOTHING !!!
If you want to compare Bullet's and Velocities of a 7 WSM & a 300 RUM :
.300 RUM/225 ELD, 7WSM/180 ELD. I used my actual velocity in the 7WSM with 25" barrel and compared both using pressure-tested data and QL. I gave the RUM every advantage I could- 1000 psi higher peak pressure, an extra inch of barrel, etc. Sucks to burn nearly 40 gr more powder with every shot, and still come in 2nd place
So what does a 180gr bullet and a 225gr bullet have in common ? Are you done trying to answer my question ? Because the answer is NOTHING !!!
You can't come in 1st when you can't even start the race … Now let's try it again … pay attention this time .
Ok, if you want to compare Bullet's and Velocities of a 7 WSM & a 300 RUM this is what you need to do:
I'm at the finish line, waiting, waiting ..... oh, is that you ... almost but several other caliber bullet's got here before you .... too bad.
That's how it's done ... you can't win if you can't even reach the target.
The Thrill of Victory .... The Agony of defeat
We had a wall plaque in our holiday trailer. It read, "Before you shoot your mouth off, make sure your brains are loaded!"
You sir, have failed to abide by that slogan.
Why do you think this thread has gone on as long as it has? It's not because it is insightful, to the contrary, every time you post, you demonstrate what you don't understand.
Most of the posters are egging you on, but you don't understand that.
I'm glad you like your 300RUM. But it is an extremely inefficient cartridge. To help you out, an inefficient cartridge is one that burns excessive amounts of powder to gain diminishing ballistic gains. I shoot a 300WSM with a 168gr bullet and Reloder 17. Alliant powder does not list the 168gr bullet or Reloder 17 in the 300RUM, so I'll use Reloder 22 which is listed for both cartridges.
The 300WSM and a 165gr bullet can achieve 3125fps with 73grs of RL22. The 300RUM and a 165gr bullet can achieve 3268fps with 93grs of RL22.
I will admit RL22 is not slow enough to maximize the cavernous capacity of the RUM, but it is a straight comparison that demonstrates that the RUM requires 20grs more powder to achieve 143fps more velocity with the same bullet. Is the animal any more dead or the rock any more split with 143fps more velocity? Nope. But your barrel will burn out faster than my WSM and I can load 6 WSM rounds for every 5 RUM you load. The RUM is even economically inefficient.
Back in the days before good laser rangefinders or ballistic reticles or tactical turrets, some people felt that shaving even an inch off the trajectory could make a difference between one more xring, or a dead deer. I still practice maximum point blank range. I know my loads, so I sight in so that I am pretty much dead on at 300yds and my bullet is never more than about 4" high. My MPBR is about 330yds or wherever the bullet dips below 4" below line of sight. If you use this correctly, if I hold dead on the center (height) of a deer's chest, I will not miss that deer and will kill it anywhere from the muzzle to 330yds. Even at 400yds, I am 11" low, 26" low at 500. MPBR has worked for me for 35 years. To sight in differently screws my brain up.
Now days, a shooter or Hunter, with a rangefinder and a scope with a ballistic reticle or turrets can do anything a RUM was designed to do with a 308Win or a 6.5 Creedmoor. Less powder, less recoil.
Enjoy your RUM, but if you want posters to stop laughing at you, stop posting on this thread. To keep posting you are confirming the old adage: "If you think people think you are an idiot, open your mouth and confirm it."
I'm at the finish line, waiting, waiting ..... oh, is that you ... almost but several other caliber bullet's got here before you .... too bad.
That's how it's done ... you can't win if you can't even reach the target.
The Thrill of Victory .... The Agony of defeat
So let's assume that your comparison above is the correct comparison to make, which it is not. Your bullet gets to the target with less drop. The 7WSM gets there with less wind drift. If you've done any amount of long range shooting, you would understand that wind is the hard part. Elevation (drop) is easy. Congratulations, you've used 30 grains more powder to make it harder to hit the target.
Now, if you insist on using the 178 in the 300 RUM, which I wouldn't, a better comparison would be to the 150 ELDX in the 7WSM. The WSM is both flatter and drifts less. Comparing bullets of the same weight across calibers is a fail.
I'm at the finish line, waiting, waiting ..... oh, is that you ... almost but several other caliber bullet's got here before you .... too bad.
That's how it's done ... you can't win if you can't even reach the target.
The Thrill of Victory .... The Agony of defeat
So let's assume that your comparison above is the correct comparison to make, which it is not. Your bullet gets to the target with less drop. The 7WSM gets there with less wind drift. If you've done any amount of long range shooting, you would understand that wind is the hard part. Elevation (drop) is easy. Congratulations, you've used 30 grains more powder to make it harder to hit the target.
Cpl_Austin - take the cerebrum off of autopilot for a moment. Comprehend and actually absorb what rovert has laid out above.
And, I suppose congratulations are in order - it's been some time since someone has given Jeff O a thick-headed run for his money on this forum.
When I hunt and shoot, I never look at a chart, I just kill stuff. I had a 300 WBY, but my brother talked me into a 30-378. It didn’t take long to get over that and I went back to the 300 WBY.
I have found the 300 WBY to be the most for the least in the 30 caliber magnums. Anything more is too much of not enough, anything less is not enough of too much...
To keep posting you are confirming the old adage: "If you think people think you are an idiot, open your mouth and confirm it."
Too late...
Although the version of that saying Grandpa always used was: “Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”