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Always wanted to build one never have.
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No, but I have a 225 win in a 340 (the red headed step child of the Savage family) does that count? I would have thought you all ready had a 99 in 22-250, not as classy as the 225 win but same ballistics. Time for another project?
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Those .225 340's are pretty rare beasts, no?
Have you tried running any .225's through any 99 actions, Roy? Wondering if the HP or .250 rotor would work best. Betting that a .250 cartridge guide would be your huckleberry.
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I think Stever has/had one but I'm not sure. Yeah, already got a 22/250 but always been smitten with the 225. Just curious if they're out there and how they work.
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How hard is it finding brass for the 225 these days? And admittedly I know nothing about the round outside of being aware of its existence for years.
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Not hard at all if you have a pile of empty .30-30 brass.
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Not hard at all if you have a pile of empty .30-30 brass. Gary, how do you get the rim dimension needed for 225 win, with a lathe? Lee
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Before I tried a .225 in a 99, I'd look hard at a .219 Zipper Improved. I'm fairly certain you would get similar ballistics and the cases are a lot less work to make.
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Yeah. I didn't say it was easy! (No I haven't, but a long ago friend did, mainly to prove a point.) Actually, with a collet chuck and the correct tool you could do a bunch of rims in a lathe lickety split.
Sorry, being the owner of a lathe tends to shade my opinion of what's easily do-able when it comes to stuff like this.
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No, but I have one built on a Hiwall. I've had the gun about 50 years. Never planned on selling it, but things change. Beautiful wood with..exquisite checkering. Full bull Douglas supreme barrel. 15 X Unertl Ultra Varmint scope with calibrated head and both lens caps. Scope could pass for new. 240 Winchester brass (200 primed but unfired Winchester cases). RCBS dies. Wilson case guage. Hard waterproof case. I probably haven't shot it 200 times since I had the current barrel put on it. No dings in wood or metal. I don't Have pictures, but if you are interested, contact me per the following: Al Merithew 2601 Columbia Drive Apt B3 Endwell New York 13760 Phone: 607-240-8513 Email: almerithew gmail.com Asking $2300.
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FWIW: Winchester created the 225 Win as a replacement for the Swift. Similar ballistics.
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Isnt the rim smaller on the 225? that might be a problem on a 99 action.
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What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things? Why not just get a 22HP? Or pick up a 340? Saw 2 on web sites today for less than it probably costs to modify a 99. I understand liking to tinker... but sometimes I wonder about folks.
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Yes, but somebody here (mathman, or 260Remguy?) commented once about the single lugged bolt 340 not being a swell platform for the hot .225, and that's why Savage dropped it after a brief foray?
The .225 was intended to be a rimmed replacement for .22-250-class cartridges. An answer to a question seldom asked by any but single shot riflemen.
Johno- yes, but the 99 can handle both rimless and rimmed cartridges. The .225 rim is smaller than a .30-30 rim but rimmed nonetheless, while all the other dimensions are compatible with basic .30-30 case dimensions.
If I were going the .225 route I would cut to the chase and build a .219 Donaldson Wasp on a suitable single shot action and call it a day. It's what the cool kids did 60 years ago, don'tcha know?!
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Aaah.. wasn't the round I was thinking of. 3400fps with 60gr bullet pretty good. Dead is dead though.. a 99 in 22HP, 250-3000 or a 22-250 will do the job.
Course, I'm the guy who sold off almost all his 99's in 30-30 because I like Savages in the original 303 better. Definitely not one for tinkering.
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If you built a 225 in a 99 it better be a gun you are willing to be buried with.
Never, ever, EVER going to see your money back on that one...
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What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things? Why not just get a 22HP? Or pick up a 340? Saw 2 on web sites today for less than it probably costs to modify a 99. I understand liking to tinker... but sometimes I wonder about folks. Not everyone thinks a 340 is a substitute for a Savage 1899 or 99.
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Not everyone thinks a 340 is a substitute for a Savage 1899 or 99. Not everyone thinks spending 30%+ of the cost of an 1899CD or special order 1899 just to turn a 99 into something “different” makes any sense. Why didn’t they make a 99 in 225? Because nobody wanted one... But it’s your money, it’s yours to spend as you see fit. Have fun.
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Not everyone thinks a 340 is a substitute for a Savage 1899 or 99. Not everyone thinks spending 30%+ of the cost of an 1899CD or special order 1899 just to turn a 99 into something “different” makes any sense. Why didn’t they make a 99 in 225? Because nobody wanted one... But it’s your money, it’s yours to spend as you see fit. Have fun. WTF are you talking about?
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Cost of a barrel, chambering, fitting.. ain’t free. Buying a gun somebody else converted not free. I like guns with character, I don’t care if folks buy whatever trips their trigger. A body has a right to spend the money they earn the way they want to. Doesn’t mean it makes sense to me.
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