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The term pavlova came about when a Russian ballerina toured the Antipodes ( both Aus and NZ) 1926 and a meringue based dessert was whipped up and named in her honor,
however such meringue type based desserts existed in Europe centuries before.
Dr .Woods from NZ and Oz lady by name Utrecht, have together heavily researched the subject and both came to that conclusion, finding many such old recipes that date well before 20th century.
" They followed the history back to German-speaking Habsburgs, whose power extended over much of Europe from the 15th to 18th centuries. The Habsburgs had a fixation for all things Spanish including "one of the most stunning cakes" called a Spanische Windtorte, a complicated combination of meringue, fruit and cream.
As German-speaking immigrants moved to America, they brought with them meringue-based desserts called schaum torte (which translates as foam cake) and baiser torte (commonly known now as Kiss Cake). A large proportion of these immigrants settled in the mid-west of America where Wood and Utrect began picking up pockets of these recipes. "
NZ and Oz can argue all they want about taking credit, , but all they can really take credit for is giving an old dessert a new name.
and had NZ remained as part of the penal Colony of NSW Australia, there would be no argument ..
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The ANZAC biscuit, was also in existence well before it got its new name, which is an acronym that came in after Gallipoli.
It dated back to the early part of 1800s, taking on various names over time; surprise biscuits, crispies, Red Cross biscuits, soldier biscuits, hardtack biscuits, Anzac wafer, Anzac tile, etc.
Aus and NZ have laws that tell you they must be called Anzac biscuits,.. ie; its unlawful to call them cookies. ..
and one is required to adhere to the 'traditional' recipe if you want to call it an Anzac biscuit,
however, household recipes dating from before and after WW1, can vary from that used for commercial war time production. *** ***
Overall just so much myth and bullcrap surrounding the ANZACS that's slowly but surely coming to light. and some good books have been written soberly revealing such. .. Many soldiers letters from military archives in Oz and UK are showing just how much BS was spread back in the wAr for propaganda reasons and then the myths further built around that stuff in the century following. nOt to tell the truth and stick with convenient legend and myth narratives does not do the soldiers of the time true justice...IMO.
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It was their chance to really prove themselves as new nations, Aus and NZ had only in recent yrs before WW1 gained Dominion status.
In the case of Aus. it had become a Federation in 1901, ..during Second Boer war Australia had initially contributed a variety of militia groups from its independent colonies, then during the war they formed into and fought as a Commonwealth Force.
Essentially the Boer War was Australias first military involvement as a nation, yet it aint talk about nearly as much.
A big thing about WW1 was that Aus troops now came under Australian command. and they achieved some mighty important results for the war effort. ..
Originally Posted by Seafire
for the King and Crown...
Indeed , but when British royals visited Australian repatriation hospitals, they didn't get a very nice welcome from veterans.
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