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Originally Posted by vapodog
ya know folks.....Boddington didn't actually say anything that warrants 34 pages of comments about the 270


True, as far as the .270 goes.

But then he had to go and bring up the dreaded Creedmoor.......



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Are you really so [bleep] stupid you can't search for a bullet and figure out where to buy it? Seriously? God damn you are actually, no joke, for real retarded. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/161505/woodleigh-b blushullets-325-winchester-short-magnum-wsm-323-diameter-220-grain-weldcore-protected-point-box-of-50I literally have never met anyone as stupid as you that used a computer.
I am curious, why are you so mad and impolite? You could give advice to your friends on a social forum without being nasty. Praying that you get relief from whatever is really bothering you.

Reminds me of what I heard a good surgeon needs. Graying temples to give him that look of wisdom, hemorrhoids to give him that "concerned" look...

Don't know if LB has graying temples, sorta suspicious about the other matter..... blush

Agree, hope he finds relief...

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by vapodog
ya know folks.....Boddington didn't actually say anything that warrants 34 pages of comments about the 270


True, as far as the .270 goes.

But then he had to go and bring up the dreaded Creedmoor.......

Like the guy who accused his pastor. "Pastor", he said, "You quit preaching and went to meddlin.."

Boddington was preaching good, then he went to meddlin... blush

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The .270 came along when there wasn't much choice in hunting cartridges. O'Connor championed it because he hunted extensively with it and got good results. It generated lots of excitement then and it still does. It's a great cartridge. It is also a long action cartridge that still suffers from bullet choice but that doesn't matter too much to the game it kills.

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a great short action cartridge that does everything it's designed for and then some. It has a lot of choices in bullets and is every bit as controversial as the .270 was in 1930 and still is to this day. You can get a lot of different rifles chambered in the 6.5 Creedmoor that are accurate from the factory and find ammo for it just about anywhere. It doesn't mean that it's the only hunting round that will kill game.

I read the article and it's pretty good actually. I don't envy the gun writers having to come up with a decent article that will please their readers on a regular basis. Any article is guaranteed to piss someone off. The big bore boys are still alive and well and the aficionados of each cartridge are going to fight to the death for their baby. I take it for what it is, a decent article on a fine hunting cartridge.

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Rainshot, well said!

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With a .270 and a .30/06 there's nothing you can't kill in NA. The .270 for game up to moose and the .30/06 for game up to and including the big bears.

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
With a .270 and a .30/06 there's nothing you can't kill in NA. The .270 for game up to moose and the .30/06 for game up to and including the big bears.
You could just forget the .270 and do it all with the .30-06.

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Originally Posted by rainshot
The .270 came along when there wasn't much choice in hunting cartridges. O'Connor championed it because he hunted extensively with it and got good results. It generated lots of excitement then and it still does. It's a great cartridge. It is also a long action cartridge that still suffers from bullet choice but that doesn't matter too much to the game it kills.

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a great short action cartridge that does everything it's designed for and then some. It has a lot of choices in bullets and is every bit as controversial as the .270 was in 1930 and still is to this day. You can get a lot of different rifles chambered in the 6.5 Creedmoor that are accurate from the factory and find ammo for it just about anywhere. It doesn't mean that it's the only hunting round that will kill game.

I read the article and it's pretty good actually. I don't envy the gun writers having to come up with a decent article that will please their readers on a regular basis. Any article is guaranteed to piss someone off. The big bore boys are still alive and well and the aficionados of each cartridge are going to fight to the death for their baby. I take it for what it is, a decent article on a fine hunting cartridge.



That hits the nail squarely.
Had this response been on page one, the thread wouldn't have multiple pages. grin


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Nah, the thread would still have been just as long. Many if not most Campfire members just reader the header before responding, bypassing even the original post. They would never have read rainshot's post, even if it had been on the first page!

In fact, some posters still apparently haven't read the original post. If they had, they'd quit bitching about why a thread "about the .270" has so much stuff about the 6.5 Creedmoor.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
With a .270 and a .30/06 there's nothing you can't kill in NA. The .270 for game up to moose and the .30/06 for game up to and including the big bears.
You could just forget the .270 and do it all with the .30-06.

True.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer

In many ways, the Campfire is perfect example of a pure democracy, where everybody gets a vote, even those who have very little idea of what the election's about....


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Truth.


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I was looking for a new "longer range rifle" about three months ago. Love the 6.5's, have had several. Looked at the 6.5 Creedmoor, PRC, and the 28 Nosler. Looked at ballistic charts, internet, till my mind melted. 6.5 Creed is a good one, but no better than several others. Unless one buys it all in a store. Found a Sako 85 in 270 for a very good price. Have everything to reload, brass, powders, and bullets. Son has one and I reload for him. Easy choice, not that much difference between any of them. New bullets and powder have helped the 270 as well. Perhaps an inch or two out to 300 yards difference. A Deer kill zone is about a dinner plate. If I can't hit that, it is my issue not the choice of round/caliber.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Nah, the thread would still have been just as long. Many if not most Campfire members just reader the header before responding, bypassing even the original post. They would never have read rainshot's post, even if it had been on the first page!

In fact, some posters still apparently haven't read the original post. If they had, they'd quit bitching about why a thread "about the .270" has so much stuff about the 6.5 Creedmoor.

In many ways, the Campfire is perfect example of a pure democracy, where everybody gets a vote, even those who have very little idea of what the election's about....



Furthermore, I wonder how many have actually read Boddington's article.

Democracy? More like anarchy at times.


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Originally Posted by 340boy
If memory serves, Boddington became a believer after killing a large bull elk in New Mexico with the 270?


Yes you are correct. I'd say Boddington's conclusion pretty much parallels what Spomer wrote a few months ago. Personally my .270's have resulted in more notched tags than other cartridge. But the 6.5 CM is a welcome diversion to something else - life is short - burn powder and dent primers.


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[quote=bigwhoop life is short - burn powder and dent primers.
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Best advice I've seen on the 'Fire today.


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Funniest post of the entire thread had to be the one calling a the 243 a varmint rifle.

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It was the context, as if the 243 was only good for things no larger than varmints.

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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
In an article in the current issue of "American Rifleman," Craig Boddington states that, "In my opinion these three similar 6.5mms (6.5x55, .260 Remington, and 6.5 Creedmoor), despite the magical properties currently attributed to them, do not equal the 96-year-old .270 Winchester as a hunting cartridge."

He then goes on to describe why in four pages. It's a good read.


For years I have a lot of respect for Craig Boddington. After meeting him years later, and listening to some of his comments on various subjects, I came to the opinion that he full of himself. His writings and musings today are for one purpose and one purpose only - MONEY.


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I only go to work cause I need money too. He writes great articles. He isn’t going to please everyone. Most subjects have been beat to cshit, the 270 has been written about dozens and dozens of times. He did a great job writing that article in my opinion.

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