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Posted as new item on May 24.

I'm not so sure it's a "new" item. It looks like the one he's been flogging for a few years. I looked at it when he had it at the Baltimore Show two years ago, for the exact same price, and I swear it's the same gun. I sure would like to own it though...

Wow, outstanding condition. Guessing that rifle didnt take part in many Home Guard maneuvers.

Eric

That isn't an outrageous price - is it? Ever seen a better one??

Would like to hear from Fug on this one!

I never ran across one of those but I did once have an opportunity to get one of the Czarist Winchester 1895s for about 750-bucks. I should have snagged it but I was a starving student back in the 90s and 750 might as well hav been a kings ransom.

I'm wondering if any of the Saddle Ring Carbines ever had factory sling swivels installed , that being the the only identifiable difference between it and the MHG butt stock , not counting the numbered butt plate or the serial number range.

It doesn't say but I wonder if this was imported from Canada. Usually his arms that are get an importer's stamp on them, usually on the barrel, underneath. That would hurt the value would it not?

OP … BillR,

THANK YOU for taking the time to post the link to this fabulous rifle. It was simply a pleasure to go through the many photos.

Blessings,

Steve

Nice to see you posting dogzapper.

In answer to the import mark question above, I don't know if that decreases the value or not. I hope not, as I am waiting for one of these to come from Canada myself. Certainly would not have spent that kind of money for one.

Related to this MHG of Salter's. Has anybody attempted to source the stock furniture needed to ressurect the sporterized MHG he's been flogging for a couple years now too? I still say the wood fore arm is no big deal to fabricate, but the furniture (both bands) would be an unholy task. Also, does any other rifle anywhere share the same rear sight as the MHG?

The nose cap with bayonet lug would be a challenge to duplicate but if you do make all the parts and restore one of the many cut down/butchered MHG you are still left with an MHG that has been butchered then restored with replacement wood and metal parts ...…. so why bother?

EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a piece of history, not many of them out there, and they'll never make another.

Some folks like restoring. Others don't.

And why not bring one back to life? Sure, it wouldn't be original, but the only one to take exception would be a fussy fuddy duddy collector, and as long as it's not passed of as original, again who cares? A thousand bucks plus a lot of time and labor can produce something that I couldn't afford to buy for $9000. A guy who did it can say he owns an MHG and he wouldn't be stretching the truth by much.

Sometimes the whole "collecting" mindset drives me up a wall. The game takes a lot of "collectible" pieces off the market and away from guys like me who merely want to own, shoot, examine/learn them and pass them on for the next big thing.

It's like eschewing a D-Type Jaguar because it's been restored- and thus denying oneself the experience of owning and driving the piss out of an historic classic. Certainly a case of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

There. The car thing again. An analogy is an analogy, whether it's about pocket watches, bottle openers, or women.

I am with you Gary. As you said, it's time to change the name of this forum. "Collectible" pieces cost money and there are some that are more than willing to drop the coin on something unmolested and there are some that scoff at it. There was a time when I couldn't justify paying an arm and a leg but that time has passed. If I see something I want, I reach for it. It's only money and you'll make more of it. A nice vintage "anything" isn't made anymore.

There is room for all us here.

Anyway, I drives by and sees this old car under a tree in the cow pasture. I stops in and says hey, that thing for sale or ??? Anyhow, ends up buying it. Hadn't run in many years. Canvas top gone, chickens roosting inside the whole 9 yards. I hook up a battery and a gas can and crank it over and it fires and runs like a top! 1927 Nash coupe. Wood frame completely rotten, seat nothing but springs, interior gone.

Did I ever mention the 1955 big window chevy 4x4 truck I totally rebuilt?

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Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato

Deuteronomy 22:5

Couldn't have said it better. Why the hell not restore a piece that would be destined for the parts bin, that no collector would give the time of day to. I love to bring something well past its prime and return it to its former glory, and not exclusively guns. Get mucho satisfaction seeing the finished project looking grand once more. There are a plethora of old grey rats, so won't be depleting the availability of them to those who seek to fill their racks with such. America seems to have a monopoly on original unmolested pieces. Go across the pond and they aren't so condemning of restoration. As previously stated, thats the only way some of us less affluent folks can acquire a Savage of our dreams to shoot and enjoy.