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While there are plenty of stories about detention centers being built, either surreptitiously or right under our noses, they don't have to be true and they don't have to lock that many people up. The most likely scenario is they try a few high profile cases, likely with people that they want for other reasons anyway, and really stomp them. The whole country is already guilty of NOT letting the punishment fit the crime as we tend to want LE to really hammer people who we think are guilty, so we let prosecutors do things like charge surviving criminals with murder when the police shoot down a couple of bank robbers in a team of say, four. There's no way the other two are guilty of murder...etc. So another high profile mass killing happens and throw the book at the schmuck who sold the guy the guns-now illegally because they weren't UBC'd.

There is also the possibility that detention centers go up overnight. The government will spare no expense with your tax dollars in order to put you, a formerly law abiding citizen, away for a non-crime. The country that won WWII is certainly capable of massive efforts and putting up some prisons for scofflaws is nothing compared to that, so there's another scenario.

Nope, I’ve done nothing but tell you to quit being a hysterical idiot and focus your attentions where they might do some good. But, I’ve never advocated compromise except to tell you that to one degree or another Red Flag laws are coming and you can have a drastic effect on how they are implemented by getting in the ears of your local and state officials.

Neither my state rep (sleazebag attorney and also Mr. Deer Hunter) or state senator (Most Conservative in Texas) would touch constitutional carry legislation this year. To hell with them, neither one are worth a damn.

For one thing, I'm not a "hysterical idiot" in the first place, so telling me to quit being one really doesn't do anything. Secondly, you have no idea where I focus my attentions other than on this site, and I'm not even sure you're aware of that. You OTOH, have very much advocated compromise and are also trying to stifle the opposition to compromise. Anybody who doubts my words can look at your posts and judge for themselves. You've become Goosey Light.

Exactly the right GIF, meme or whatever those things are called.

Exactly.

Geno

PS, you should see the replies I get from their ilk when I write letters.

It’s all about getting the camels nose in the tent. Once it starts there is no stopping it. Hasbeen

Primary his dumb ass.

Yes, in fact, you are. You prove it with your every post on this issue.

And this entire thread proves my point. While you and so many on this board have been obsessing over the stray utterances of Donald Trump or how much Wayne Lapierre spends on those horrible pin striped suits he wears, the threat is coming from a Republican at the state level. And like I told you in my beginning posts in other threads, forget about the national fight, or at least don’t focus on it to the exclusion of everything else. We’re losing the fight at the state level. Seventeen states have Red Flag laws and more are trying to follow. Lots of states have UBC now and more are trying to follow. You may not be able to have much effect on your national guys because they are so bought and paid for these days, they don’t even care if they get re-elected. They’re going to be rich anyway. But at the state level you CAN actually go down to the office and talk to your state rep. You can see him at a fundraiser. And if that doesn’t work and he still passes Red Flag laws, then you can go to work on the ELECTED judges who will implement them. I promise you, if the NRA or some other organization adopted the MADD model and sent representatives to every county in every state in the country and asked to see their Red Flag statistics like MADD does with drunk driving arrests, then you would see some judges get very tentative about granting them.

That isn’t compromise. That is grassroots action.

He wants to make background checks mandatory,

except between family or friends.


Hello! My name is Karl.

Nice to know you friend!

I would be fine with UBC IF it could be done on line, for free. It would include only the buyers ID and a yes or no response and a printable copy for the sellers file. We do not need to identify the firearm or know the buyers history, just that they are not disqualified. The check should also NOT state the reason for the check, so the seller and buyer are logged somewhere as a firearms owner. Something along the lines of what the police do at a traffic stop, check for warrants and then proceed accordingly. OK guys, pick it apart.

For some reason, or so it seems, the left/liberals don't understand the NRA is made up of millions of members that own firearms or at least most do. What pizzes them off is the NRA does a better job at representing the members than the democrat party.

To the Texans here-

For the record.. I do not agree with your Lt Govenor Patrick. I hope you vote the bum out of office next election.

But.

YOUR Lt Governor in Texas IS NOT a "Yankee". PERIOD.

The MASON - DIXON LINE is the Northern Border of the South. ALWAYS HAS BEEN Maryland is SOUTH of that line. Always has been.

Many thousands of Marylanders in Gray Uniforms died right along side Texans during the Civil.war. Be careful who you call a "Yankee".

Is Patrick a transplanted Easterner? Yep. Patrick was born in Baltimore , Maryland. Your Texas Ranger hero Samuel Walker of the "Walker Colt" was also born in Maryland. And he fought like a wildcat for your great stste.

Just like many of the greatest Texans who ever lived- they were born somewhere else.

And so are the one Million plus illegals you have running around in Texas. Which is a hell.ofa lot bigger priblem for our country than whwre your current Lt Governor was born.

And the shooters at El Paso and Odessa? Probably native born Texans. So was does that really count for? Apparently not much.

And then look at Dallas ,Houston and Austin.. Chocked FULL of home grown Texas libtards. It ain't a Texas thing or Maryland thing... It's an AMERICAN THING.

The problem with that is that once the camel's nose in under the tent, you cannot tell the camel not to lift its head.

You're not for compromise...but that's all we have and nobody should even try to do anything except at the state level. Wayne LaPierre's suits aren't fashionable. blah blah blah You're fos. lol

They will still be after you if there is a crime committed after the fact, by the guy or with the gun. How do you prove that you checked him without a record of the firearm or the guy? It also doesn't address the fact that the current system is imperfect. You checked the guy but the Feds or whomever you're checking with are wrong. Wtf?

None of it matters because gun control doesn't work. Background checks don't work. We had an AWB that sunseted because there was no documentation by the Feds, of any change in crime stats due to the ban. We already have background checks that don't work. They don't not work because of some people not being checked, they don't work because they are bogus in the first place and were the original camel's nose on registration. Nobody trusts the government or their owners though and that's why we don't have total registration already. More of something that doesn't work won't work.

It also simply kicks the can down the road as to making the government heel as far as trying to curtail one of the most important rights we have. No new gun control. No exceptions. No compromise.

Do you people in Texas, where a leftist nut flake like Beetle O'Rourke got almost half the votes, really is going to vote the lt. gov. out of office over this issue?

In spite of its geographical location RE the Mason-Dixon Line, Maryland chose to stay in the Union.

Best estimates are that for every 10 Marylanders who served only about 1 in 10 went with the Confederate cause.

Unfortunately, IMHO (regardless of what others may say) Texas has been on life support since Ann Richards was in the Governors mansion. I’ve seen this political paradigm shift coming for years. Started in the early/mid 70’s. Many are in denial. But it will happen. There is no stopping it.

Good story, but those metropolis's are not "chocked full" of native born libtards. There are plenty native born RETARDS, but almost all of the "libtards" are from Mexico, California, Africa (so they claim) or the NE...which is anything north and east of St.Louis.

And you California guys can't get mad at me for saying this....it happened to you first.

I suppose those up in New England could say the same thing 300 years ago.

The world is getting a lot more comfortable. Sissy bitches couldn't live in places like Texas 100 years ago. I reckon we'll know how it all works out when the lights go off...and they will.