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No going to argue with one of the top communists on here.

The chinese people have been ruled by a govt. that has sought to disassemble 4 millenia of culture since WW2.

Look up the Red guard, Great leap forward etc. Mao was a dedicated communist who believed that all traditions had to be erased in order for a communist society to emerge. China is a simmering cauldron of people who are slowly being enlightened via exposure to western culture and values via technology.

Gus and criscoe, combined, have the geopolitical acumen of a root vegetable.


mike r

Yep, road to invasion.

i suspect the russian regime have a close eye on their nearest well-armed neighbor?

Uh, Hong Kong has been part of China for 20 years. They just have let them think they were semi-independent. That's over now.
What many here (except Jorge) are forgetting is that power projection is a very important part of military might, and China doesn't have any. They are very strong in their area but they have no carriers, overseas bases, amphibious forces, etc. As long as we don't invade them, they can't beat us. All we have to do is contain them.

Mike, the cultural revolution was over 50 years ago, and was mostly a means for Mao and his wife to consolidate power and remove enemies. All the rhetoric about destroying the four olds was political theater. Cultural Chinese are still quite proud of their history, watching plenty of historical movies and some even sending their children to schools devoted to Confucian thought.

As for the population welcoming freedom from the CCP, nah, not so much... Sure, there is a not insignificant portion of the population that is not happy about the current population, but an equal if not greater portion is fully behind the CCP. The biggest chunk of the population though, is apolitical on a scale most Westerners do not realize. Not so much out of apathy, as out of fatalism. That goes out the window if China gets involved in a conflict, nationalism will kick in big time.

PRC has been capitalist since the 20th century. The government is still authoritarian. The most communist thing about the PRC is the name of the reigning party, the Chinese Communist Party.

THAT'S SCARY!
Cause it could be true.

Bristoe; this is one subject I can safely say I am an expert on. First, there ARE supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles. They are all guided with a combination of radar or IR in the terminal phase. Ballistic missiles are as the term implies "ballistic". Now the MIRV warheads can be targeted to different point of aim, but once they are on their terminal phase, they are just that, ballistic. Cruise missiles can of course change course. But that is not the issue. yes, once launched from a relatively short range they will be harder to defeat, but the million dollar issues still remain, targeting (finding) AND getting into range to launch. While a cruise missile can be launched from relatively long distance at a carrier (for example), you have to remember that carrier can move and leave the area WAY before the missile acquires. The fact is, the radar horizon (assuming a cruise missile at 60' above the sea) is only about forty miles. a Carrier strike group has defensive assets extending out to 800 nautical miles, so in essence, the "archer" has to get in close (relatively) to even have a chance, We used to war game this, even with Regimental sized Backfire Bombers coming at us. It's just not that easy as the TV makes it out to be. Taiwan is really a VERY tough nut to crack given their own assets AND the distance to the mainland.

Any way you look at it the Clintons gave, sold, missile technology to the Chinese and they and Obama degraded our military all they possibly could during their sixteen years in office. We are suffering from attrition and the democrat house is happy to strangle the military funding further. I believe we are still the strongest and the brightest star but we're suffering from a thousand cuts.

China has been a leach on our economy for many years now and they have been allowed to steal technology that would have otherwise taken them decades to discover on their own. I wouldn't want to take them for granted. We have witnessed traitors within the upper echelons of our government that are happy to destroy our country for their own ends.

We have a big stick with our economy and that's our only hope at defeating China at their own game. If we opt not to use it we will end up being ruled by them without firing a shot.