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I own a couple SWFA 5-20x50 HD with lit reticle. Good scopes....Now that SWFA will let a guy add bushings for a ZeroStop, is nice.
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Fred, you get all the hot chicks!...Girlhunter jumping up and down, Screaming at you, āI Love Youā.....āI want you inside meā...Crying here!
Itās always funny listening to a struggling sack of shĆ®t who couldnāt hold her own pussy water when Renegade made the drive to tune her up at a roadside diner, trying to be relevant. Laughing even more.
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[quote=Girlhunter]I can't wait for Larry to tell everyone how great pussy is. That should be enough to drive Freddy out of the closet. Boy bud you ph ucked up that story about renegade ...
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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One thing I have realized is that for more limited use rifles, they donāt need a scope. Just a rail and I will take the 3 shots necessary to zero when they are put into service. Definitely leaning towards quality over quantity when it comes to scopes
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I have 2 3-15x40 SS SFP MOA/MOA that are used Iād trade for a SS 3-9 HD thatās used. For the guys who like classics and could care less about glass. 1100 looks and not one taker speaks volumes. It says that nobody who intentionally bought a FFP MRAD scope wants your SFP MOA scopes BTW, Iāve won or placed on the podium of multiple Practical Rifle matches using a SWFA 10x Classic just to prove that theyāre plenty good enough to get the job done. I had other scope options that were more PRS-appropriate sitting on my shelf that retail for up to $2,500, but I wanted to prove a point. Iāve also killed critters at first and last light with the Classic 6x and 10x here in AB. Maybe in the lighting conditions you usually hunt the Classics arenāt ideal, but you canāt tell me theyāre no good on a hunting rifle in general.
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Fred, you get all the hot chicks!...Girlhunter jumping up and down, Screaming at you, āI Love Youā.....āI want you inside meā...Crying here!
Itās always funny listening to a struggling sack of shĆ®t who couldnāt hold her own pussy water when Renegade made the drive to tune her up at a roadside diner, trying to be relevant. Laughing even more.
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[quote=Girlhunter]I can't wait for Larry to tell everyone how great pussy is. That should be enough to drive Freddy out of the closet. Boy bud you ph ucked up that story about renegade ... She's another liberal sack of shiet, living in a liberal sack of shiet state.
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I have 2 3-15x40 SS SFP MOA/MOA that are used Iād trade for a SS 3-9 HD thatās used. For the guys who like classics and could care less about glass. 1100 looks and not one taker speaks volumes. It says that nobody who intentionally bought a FFP MRAD scope wants your SFP MOA scopes BTW, Iāve won or placed on the podium of multiple Practical Rifle matches using a SWFA 10x Classic just to prove that theyāre plenty good enough to get the job done. I had other scope options that were more PRS appropriate sitting on my shelf that retail for up to $2,500, but I wanted to prove a point. Iāve also killed critters at first and last light with the Classic 6x and 10x here in AB. Maybe in the lighting conditions you usually hunt the Classics arenāt ideal, but you canāt tell me theyāre no good on a hunting rifle in general. From an elk hunting pic I saw, I'm certain he'd trade for METH.
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Fred, you get all the hot chicks!...Girlhunter jumping up and down, Screaming at you, āI Love Youā.....āI want you inside meā...Crying here!
Itās always funny listening to a struggling sack of shĆ®t who couldnāt hold her own pussy water when Renegade made the drive to tune her up at a roadside diner, trying to be relevant. Laughing even more.
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[quote=Girlhunter]I can't wait for Larry to tell everyone how great pussy is. That should be enough to drive Freddy out of the closet. Boy bud you ph ucked up that story about renegade ... She's another liberal sack of shiet, living in a liberal sack of shiet state. Beaver is far from being a liberal..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Fred, you get all the hot chicks!...Girlhunter jumping up and down, Screaming at you, āI Love Youā.....āI want you inside meā...Crying here!
Itās always funny listening to a struggling sack of shĆ®t who couldnāt hold her own pussy water when Renegade made the drive to tune her up at a roadside diner, trying to be relevant. Laughing even more.
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[quote=Girlhunter]I can't wait for Larry to tell everyone how great pussy is. That should be enough to drive Freddy out of the closet. Boy bud you ph ucked up that story about renegade ... She's another liberal sack of shiet, living in a liberal sack of shiet state. Beaver is far from being a liberal.. And Girlhunter is far from capable of manhood. LOL.
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Jordan the classics leaves way more wants than it satisfies for me.
Function is 80% for me and they nail that. but clarity ergonomics ect, suck and the last 20% is worth me spending far more than 300$.
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I own a couple SWFA 5-20x50 HD with lit reticle. Good scopes....Now that SWFA will let a guy add bushings for a ZeroStop, is nice.
š I read that right youāre a liberal who would have thought a guy in a maga hat voted for blue. š. Someone is reaching to offend and falling short as usual. 100$ Hillary C is better looking than MZ Maggie. LMFAO.
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100$ Hillary C is better looking than MZ Maggie. LMFAO.
Definitely, and weighs less to boot.
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Iāve seen pics.
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Jordan the classics leaves way more wants than it satisfies for me.
Function is 80% for me and they nail that. but clarity ergonomics ect, suck and the last 20% is worth me spending far more than 300$.
I understand your perspective being that you hunt in dim, overcast conditions much of the time. But for my uses the clarity of the Classics is where we disagree. The clarity is plenty good enough to enable me to hit small things close or far in any lighting condition I'm likely to encounter where I usually hunt. The ergos aren't ideal for a slim, lightweight rig, but for a standard-weight or heavier, it's no big deal. I have better scopes costing a whole lot more, but the Classics are the best bang-for-buck in my scope collection by far.
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I own a couple SWFA 5-20x50 HD with lit reticle. Good scopes....Now that SWFA will let a guy add bushings for a ZeroStop, is nice.
š I read that right youāre a liberal who would have thought a guy in a maga hat voted for blue. š. Someone is reaching to offend and falling short as usual. 100$ Hillary C is better looking than MZ Maggie. LMFAO. I saw a picture of the meth whore with an elk, [bleep] that was a funny ass picture. That bitch has smoked more crack than black cock, something Angela Browne can't say.
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BTW, Iāve won or placed on the podium of multiple Practical Rifle matches using a SWFA 10x Classic just to prove that theyāre plenty good enough to get the job done. I had other scope options that were more PRS-appropriate sitting on my shelf that retail for up to $2,500, but I wanted to prove a point. Iāve also killed critters at first and last light with the Classic 6x and 10x here in AB. Maybe in the lighting conditions you usually hunt the Classics arenāt ideal, but you canāt tell me theyāre no good on a hunting rifle in general. I think that says a lot, regarding the 10x Classic, in competitions Jordan. And your field shooting abilities. Jason
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I like the 6x and 10x Classics for their mechanical qualities. Tracking and zero retention.
And I agree with Hig that the MQ reticle agrees with my eye more than any other. I dial elevation and slide wind. The 6x guides bullets just fine in most open country situations. I have also used the 6x on my heavy barrel 10/22 to shoot sage rats as close as 10 yards. No problems close or far. I've also used the 10x Classic a fair bit. Not as forgiving of eye placement as the 6x, but the extra magnification is helpful for certain uses.
That said, they aren't the best for stray light or glare. Probably not an issue for most shooters. I have a 6x on an accurate centerfire that has noticeable parallax when the reticle and target are sharpest. I can eliminate the parallax, but the image degrades. I can still hit targets at extended ranges, and spot my hits/misses at 500 and beyond. Plenty good to guide bullets, but it's not an observation device.
The 3-9x is a step up optically, but I don't know that it's a huge step up in light transmission. Definitely better in terms of flare and glare. Mine had a bit of parallax at 500, and obviously there is no way to adjust for it on the scope. Doesn't matter what scope you use, you still need to deal with parallax off the scope anyway, right?
The 3-15x are not my cup of tea. I think they are the worst optically of the Classics so I can see how Fred isn't a fan. And SFP and MOA would suck. I do understand his needs. The coastal mountains can be very steep, deep, and dark. It gets pitch black in those hell holes well before legal sunset. Definitely not like shooting in a Kansas cornfield.
Just trying to put some perspective on the needs/uses and capabilities of these scopes. Hope that helps those new to these scopes.
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I like the 6x and 10x Classics for their mechanical qualities. Tracking and zero retention.
And I agree with Hig that the MQ reticle agrees with my eye more than any other. I dial elevation and slide wind. The 6x guides bullets just fine in most open country situations. I have also used the 6x on my heavy barrel 10/22 to shoot sage rats as close as 10 yards. No problems close or far. I've also used the 10x Classic a fair bit. Not as forgiving of eye placement as the 6x, but the extra magnification is helpful for certain uses.
That said, they aren't the best for stray light or glare. Probably not an issue for most shooters. I have a 6x on an accurate centerfire that has noticeable parallax when the reticle and target are sharpest. I can eliminate the parallax, but the image degrades. I can still hit targets at extended ranges, and spot my hits/misses at 500 and beyond. Plenty good to guide bullets, but it's not an observation device.
The 3-9x is a step up optically, but I don't know that it's a huge step up in light transmission. Definitely better in terms of flare and glare. Mine had a bit of parallax at 500, and obviously there is no way to adjust for it on the scope. Doesn't matter what scope you use, you still need to deal with parallax off the scope anyway, right?
The 3-15x are not my cup of tea. I think they are the worst optically of the Classics so I can see how Fred isn't a fan. And SFP and MOA would suck. I do understand his needs. The coastal mountains can be very steep, deep, and dark. It gets pitch black in those hell holes well before legal sunset. Definitely not like shooting in a Kansas cornfield.
Just trying to put some perspective on the needs/uses and capabilities of these scopes. Hope that helps those new to these scopes.
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The 6x and 10x MQ SWFA's are proof that God loves us. Fred just aint figured out that killings easy..... Or he forgot that he doesn't care what anybody else scopes their rifle with.... Come on Frud, the Leupold Fan Boys could use some troll love too. @fredIII
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I have yet to see a reticle I like more on a sub $3,000 scope.
And the glass is very usable imho.
Not 6x Leupold great, but pretty close. Exactly! I don't have any complaints with my six SWFA "junkers". I don't know what some here expect from glass, but mine guide bullets very well. I guess if you like to drop $1000 plus on scopes that make you feel better, go for it. The scope in question has had a bad reputation, so if you did not pay attention to that, then it is nobody else's fault but your own. SWFA will take care of you. Iād had this 1-4 for about 4 years Iād guess. At the time of purchase I donāt think itās flaws were as well documented as they are now.
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The 6x and 10x MQ SWFA's are proof that God loves us. Fred just aint figured out that killings easy..... Or he forgot that he doesn't care what anybody else scopes their rifle with.... Come on Frud, the Leupold Fan Boys could use some troll love too. @fredIII Fred got tossed back into purgatory for discussing Girlhunterās secret desires...Prayers sent š
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