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I have the these two vintage revolvers that I would like to sell. Question is, will they have to go to an FFL given their age?

H&R Arms Co., "The American", 32 S&W caliber; action functions, selling as wall-hanger only.

Iver Johnson break-top; no legible caliber designation; came as a box of parts; re-assembled, but does not function; wall-hanger only.

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If they can be proven to have been made prior to 1899, then they can be shipped direct to the buyer as far as I know. Many were made for a "period" IE 1888 to 1915. Most likely the safe way would be via an FFL transfer as required for any modern firearm. They are both "cartridge" pistol, not black powder.

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this is one of the most confusing parts of the atf regulations.
if those pistols were made before 1899 and
they fire ammunition not readily available to the public
they would fall under the antique non firearm status.
looking at your revolvers I would say they are circa 1920-1925 manufacture.
FFL required just by firing 32 S&W

Antique firearm.
(a) Any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; and (b) any replica of any firearm described in paragraph (a) of this definition if such replica (1) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (2) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

clear as mud?

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They can`however be shipped to a Class 3 FFL C&R collector.

Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF's C&R list.


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How much you asking?


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