Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics how was any of this possible without FFP?!?

Well, maybe you guys can help me figure out what the fuss is all about, grabbed my 6.5x55 and fired two 147gr ELD's with my LRTS into about a quarter inch at 100 on 3X at sundown, then put four rounds into 9 inches at 900 yards on 12X.

I shouldn't have fired that fourth shot, wind got me and opened it up a bit, I cant seem to find a problem hunting/shooting with either FFP or SFP.

I agree gunner. It's kind of like when I played pro baseball and went from aluminum bats in college to using wood. If you can hit, you can hit, period. It ain't the bat's fault.

This is like arguing which is better, MILs vs MOA. If you can shoot, it does not make a difference.

Read your conditions, adjust accordingly. Bang-flop.

LOL, were I in a "anything [range] can happen" hunting situation, I'd simply dial dead on at 300 yards, point and shoot, I certainly wont be shooting any game further than that at dusk, I had Wife send some pics to beretzs, maybe he can post em up tonight or tomorrow.

^^^^^^^^That Too^^^^^^^^

I've made that exact shot, & even a little longer more than once & you surely don't need to dial at 400 yards unless you have a 50 yd zero with a 45-70.

My 270/280's @ 2950 fps, with 150 gr spitzers zeroed at 275-300 yds is 10-11 inches low @400 yrds, depending on exact bullet, altitude, conditions, etc.

Wind at target is a guestimate anytime.............

But 6 seconds is likely not enough time to to realistically get set up to take that shot though & I've had a little more time to get set, stick a knife into a tree with a glove on it or get prone over a pack, & take the shot.

Bullet on the right was taken from an elk killed as described above, killed deer at similar range, no recovered bullet.

And under that or any similar circumstance, whether you were using a FFP or SFP scope would not be a factor, IMO............I own both, they both work depending on use & preference.

MM

Exactly.

Cummins’ doesn’t do anything besides sit on the couch or “test” scopes at the park and creep out kids, so I’m not sure why anyone is entertaining this.

To stay on subject, I’ve killed elk and deer with SFP and FFP. Prefer FFP, but that’s me and I couldn’t GAF what anyone else uses.

Gunner sent me these while we were jaw jacking about how little what plane the reticle is in for us normal folks, that just shoots.

He shot this at 100 yards on 3X



Then proceeded to 900 and moved up to 12X



Seems like it all works if you know the gear and it reliably moves the way you tell it to.

CC,

I’ve asked many times before, but refresh my memory. How many times have you hunted with a FFP scope? How did that scope being FFP fail you? Did it actually cost you an animal? What scope was it? What reticle did it have in it?

Thanks,

John

LOL, that pretty much says it all Big Buddy, either or, easy as pie, another reason I was never able to figure out the "reason why" for threads like these, BTW, I swear I came off that mountain with headlights on ATV, guess my little flip phone has a built in flash, think I can see some of it on the tape measure.

Speaking of flash, now there's a legitimate concern with shooting at dusk/sundown, trying to stay clear/focused looking through ANY scope with that light bulb in your eyes from the previous shot has always been a challenge for me.

Thanks again for posting the pics my Friend.

Thank you Varmint Guy
I totally agree

Who would have thought this thread would have gone sideways.

It wasn't very far into it when I couldn't decide whether it was sideways, widdershins, upside-down, downside-up, forward, or backward.

Jordan, thought i remembered going over this once before with cumminscowboy. here's a perfect example.

It takes longer to range than to turn the dial.. and most truly long range shots aren't rushed, you need to set up before you just lob bullets at an innocent animal. Citing "speed" as a reason to run FFP is fine in a PRS match.

Yep

why you'd add unnecessary and extraneous tasks to a work stream when a bucks in the crosshairs doesn't make sense to me.

walk around with ffp scope at about 6x.

bump buck..

range, dope.. stable position. hooves up

mag range is at the level i can make the shot.. tends to stay at 6x.

I laughed when I saw this thread. Still applies just as much. Yo Jordan how is John making those shots? Is he lying about second focal plane and he is really using ffp just so he can sell his scopes? Those sfp look pretty good to me. Getting it done on Wyoming public lands on real animals

This!