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Great customer service, how about not needing it? Vortex is basically a marketing company that private labels Asian optics. They sponsor every wanna be prs shooter. They give out tons of free product You know they have built a factory in WI and then enlarged it just for making a scope that everything is manufactured on site, right? Well, except the reticle... 1 of 50 products is alot. How much of the factory is shipping and receiving?
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started out OK...now not so much....kind of going the way of Zen Ray....
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Great customer service, how about not needing it? Vortex is basically a marketing company that private labels Asian optics. They sponsor every wanna be prs shooter. They give out tons of free product You know they have built a factory in WI and then enlarged it just for making a scope that everything is manufactured on site, right? Well, except the reticle... 1 of 50 products is alot. How much of the factory is shipping and receiving? The thing is the AMG is an expensive scope and they cannot keep up with demand. I have no idea how much of the new factory is used for shipping and receiving, but my WAG would be almost none. The original buildings are still in use AFAIK.
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Rots of Ruck Vortex if you keep importing Chitt from China.
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Great customer service, how about not needing it? Vortex is basically a marketing company that private labels Asian optics. They sponsor every wanna be prs shooter. They give out tons of free product You know they have built a factory in WI and then enlarged it just for making a scope that everything is manufactured on site, right? Well, except the reticle... 1 of 50 products is alot. How much of the factory is shipping and receiving? The thing is the AMG is an expensive scope and they cannot keep up with demand. I have no idea how much of the new factory is used for shipping and receiving, but my WAG would be almost none. The original buildings are still in use AFAIK. Have to move a chit load of product to pay for a new facility and employees
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Great customer service, how about not needing it? Vortex is basically a marketing company that private labels Asian optics. They sponsor every wanna be prs shooter. They give out tons of free product You know they have built a factory in WI and then enlarged it just for making a scope that everything is manufactured on site, right? Well, except the reticle... 1 of 50 products is alot. How much of the factory is shipping and receiving? The thing is the AMG is an expensive scope and they cannot keep up with demand. I have no idea how much of the new factory is used for shipping and receiving, but my WAG would be almost none. The original buildings are still in use AFAIK. I guess factory is the wrong word. They probably receive, then ship a thousand products from their warehouse for every one scope manufactured and shipped from the U.S. factory. Nothing wrong with having product made overseas, but don't pretend the backbone of the business USA manufacturing.
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I’m curious what they “make” in Wisconsin. Import, re-sell and ship is probably a better description.
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Great customer service, how about not needing it? Vortex is basically a marketing company that private labels Asian optics. They sponsor every wanna be prs shooter. They give out tons of free product You know they have built a factory in WI and then enlarged it just for making a scope that everything is manufactured on site, right? Well, except the reticle... 1 of 50 products is alot. How much of the factory is shipping and receiving? The thing is the AMG is an expensive scope and they cannot keep up with demand. I have no idea how much of the new factory is used for shipping and receiving, but my WAG would be almost none. The original buildings are still in use AFAIK. I guess factory is the wrong word. They probably receive, then ship a thousand products from their warehouse for every one scope manufactured and shipped from the U.S. factory. Nothing wrong with having product made overseas, but don't pretend the backbone of the business USA manufacturing. As long as you don't do business with the country that killed hundreds of thousands of people with their greed I am ok with that.
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GOD Bless America
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I’m curious what they “make” in Wisconsin. Import, re-sell and ship is probably a better description.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Everything except the reticle is done in house.
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They are like almost every other optics company, some of their stuff is good, some isn't. Not hard to do 5 minutes of research and find out which products are which, and where they are made. Stick with the Japanese and USA made products and you'll have the odds in your favor.
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I won't touch them with a 20' pole. I had one of their first Razor 12x50 razor bino's that I pre ordered when they were introduced.. I broke them, sent them in to see if they could be fixed. This was at the time they were coming out with the next generation of HD razors. I sent an Email asking if I could upgrade to the HD's and would be willing to pay for the upgrade. I was told that they would be sending me a replacement pair of original razors. I sent an email back to them reiterating that I would pay for an upgrade considering that Vortex was not making the original. I received a return email stating that they had some in the QA room that they used for testing. I had written the serial number of my binos down for my records. When I received my replacements I checked the serial number and it was an older serial number than I had sent in. At that point I put the binos up for sale, cancelled a order for several Vortex scopes that I had ordered, removed all my Vortex scopes that I had mounted on rifles, sold them, Sold my spotting scope. I no longer have anything that says Vortex on it. Bitter? you bet, I have no reason to do business with Vortex for any reason. Their life time warranty is nothing but a joke. Damn, I've seen 3 year olds cry less when one of their toys break. I'm sure they are glad to no longer have you as a customer. They were, still get a Christmas card every year thanking me.
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They are like almost every other optics company, some of their stuff is good, some isn't. Not hard to do 5 minutes of research and find out which products are which, and where they are made. Stick with the Japanese and USA made products and you'll have the odds in your favor. But you'll still have a scope named after the swirl in a toilet, and that's just silly.
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I have had 4 Vortex products.One was a Viper spotting scope 65MM.When I opened the box it was in 2 pieces.I sent it back for a refund.I have a 4-16 HST and it is just ok.I had a 6-24 Viper that I could not focus to my eyes.I sent it back for a refund.I had a 2-7 that had tunnel vision.It actually focused quite well as long as it was left on 2 power.So I have kept one out of four I bought and people bitch about Leupolds.I have never sent a Leupold back for any reason except for the one my son dropped out of a tree stand. You sent back a spotter because "it was in two pieces in the box?" That is absolutely classic! Two pieces as in broken.
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When I was selling firearms part-time from 2014-2016 we could buy six Vortex optics a year for 60% off MSRP. Dealing with Vortex from a retailer perspective was a pleasure. They do have a great warranty, as so many Vortex owners state. The warranty has to be used way too often, as so many Vortex detractors state but it is true. I admire Vortex’ marketing strategy from the standpoint that it has been very successful for them.
At least one Razor model is assembled in Wisconsin. I have a Razor Mini Red Dot I’m happy with. The Crossfire II, Diamondback, Strike Eagle and Viper scope lines leave me singularly underwhelmed.
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My former employer was a Vortex dealer and I acquired razor binos and spotter for free as well as a tripod. All functioned well. I pretty much destroyed my spotter and tripod due to my own negligence. Both were replaced swiftly and w/out hassle. Say what you will about their products but they honor their warrenty.
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My only experience was one I put on my grandson's 22-250. I did some side by side comparisons between it and a few other scopes in its price range. It didn't impress me any. My grandson likes it just fine. Seriously though, could they have come up with a dumber company name? This is literally a vortex. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/sDYm2Ybc/download.jpg) PB for the Win! LOL!
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When I was selling firearms part-time from 2014-2016 we could buy six Vortex optics a year for 60% off MSRP. Dealing with Vortex from a retailer perspective was a pleasure. They do have a great warranty, as so many Vortex owners state. The warranty has to be used way too often, as so many Vortex detractors state but it is true. I admire Vortex’ marketing strategy from the standpoint that it has been very successful for them.
At least one Razor model is assembled in Wisconsin. I have a Razor Mini Red Dot I’m happy with. The Crossfire II, Diamondback, Strike Eagle and Viper scope lines leave me singularly underwhelmed. Actually there warranty SUCKS
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