I know what I think I saw, let the investigation play out, and learn more.
Not, that the end result will match the info from the investigation.
I do know that in the last several years we have seen this reaction from a number of situations. Some in which the cops performed exactly as they should.
In too many though, they were wrong.
And, other than public opinion, suffered nothing as the result of someone dying needlessly.
Some, would have easily been charged and imprisoned if they weren't Blue. Others, probably didn't deserve charges, But clearly showed they were in the wrong profession.
I don't understand this Blue Line thing.
How can someone proud of their profession, dedicated to upholding the law, not be incensed when they find a traitor to the cause.
Why is it them against us? I'm not against them. I wish they would do a better job policing themselves. I want to have that childish, traditional respect toward cops.
Instead. I have had that conservation with my kids.
The one a former president alluded to.
Except, my kids aren't ghetto black boys. They are are articulate white females.
The guide for all arrests and use of force is the 4th Amendment. This is difficult for a lot of Americans to understand because when they hear search and seizure they think "searching my car" or "seizing my boat." But all arrests are a seizure in the eyes of our courts, and any use of force that is applied during that seizure, is also viewed through the glass of the 4th Amendment. In its most plain terms, death is the ultimate seizure that the government can perform against an individual. The state has taken a life.
When a case goes before a court the objective is to determine if the officer acted in a reasonable fashion.
The factors that can be weighed to determine if the officer/officers behaved reasonably are LIMITLESS. They can include but not be limited to, severity of the crime, level of resistance by the subject, which of the parties involved escalated the encounter, which of the parties involved tried to keep the encounter from escalation, training, prior knowledge of subject, lack of prior knowledge of subject, an officer's level of experience, an officer's lack of experience, size and skill of an officer, size and skill of a subject, and on, and on, it goes. And keep in mind that hindsight cannot be used as a factor and that judge and jury must consider factors like adrenaline and split second decision making.
Law enforcement is not viewed the same as non-law enforcement. I hate to break that news to people, but the courts decided long ago that an agent of the state will be viewed differently than Joe Schit the Ragman.
Suffice to say that simply watching a video and making a guess as to what happened, and who is culpable, is most always a bad idea. It is only going to be one factor in the outcome of the case. This has been proven 100X's over, i.e. Rodney King, Freddie Gray, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc.
Yet Americans just keep taking the bait and refuse to understand how the 4th Amendment applies to them and theirs if a law dog chooses to interact with them.
Dave,
Thank you for sharing your professional perspective.
Most of these discussions lack a proper perspective.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Whether they're guilty of anything or not, one thing's for certain. If any one of us had our knee on some dudes neck for several minutes, on video, while bystanders pleaded with us to stop, and that mother f'r died, we'd be doing 25 to life, no if's, ands, or butts.
Cops....
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
All one can hope for is for justice to be served, one way or another. Two things that is for sure,one is the typical reaction of politicians to automatically throw cops under the bus, with the other being the excuse to loot. Put them on admin leave? of course. We'll see what happens
I don't think it's been posted yet, but the officers have all been terminated by the city of Minneappleass.
My point exactly and there are videos of rioting already...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
Don't play dumb we all know you're smarter than that
You might want to read what I post and actually watch the video you keep citing.
Because you're looking dumber by the minute.
I have seen the video several times, read every word you wrote and as usual your mostly correct,, but to take what the cop says as fact as he continues to let the guy die? We all know better whether we admit it or not
1.) I don't know how that person died 2.) People that don't want to be arrested all strive for the same Oscar 3.) The amount of times that officer has witnessed the same performance, from different actors 4.) "Cops are fibber-heads" would be a poor opening statement
These are all factors that will undoubtedly be weighed.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
news story i read said all the cops had body cams, maybe they will release that at some point.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
