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The 130’s are great for a 300 Savage in a 99
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Last month 178 yds, .308 .130gr TSX...I load them to 3010 fps which is plenty with sub MOA accuracy IMO...they just work period....Last yrs late season doe 227 yds..DRT ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/kgM076BL/IMG-5545.jpg)
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Why do some tout the 130 TTSK in the 308 as optimum? What is it used for?
The BC of a 130 TTSK is only .350 and a 150 gr Nosler BT is .435! and the 155 gr VLD is .439.
What do you say the 130 TTSK best for, going away desperation shots at close range? Don’t know about optimal, but I load them in my kimber Montana as reduced recoil loads and I have never had a WT take five steps after a single shot. Five WT one season all with the Barnes 130s and reduced recoil that’s like shooting a 243 recoil wise. The recoil for me only matters because I shoot freehand 100% of the time in the woods. Not much to hate here! Off the bench is one ragged hole.
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I have been on the fire for a few years. There are times I believe I can feel brain cells dissolving as I read some of this stuff. Amazing at times. PS. I believe any weight 30 caliber bullet will kill a deer. If not prove me wrong. Edk
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I have been on the fire for a few years. There are times I believe I can feel brain cells dissolving as I read some of this stuff. Amazing at times. PS. I believe any weight 30 caliber bullet will kill a deer. If not prove me wrong. Edk I believe this too. Deer aren’t hard to kill.
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Man... I wasn’t part of the forum 10 years ago when this thread started...
Or else I wouldn’t have dropped a dozen critters with a .308 Adirondack throwing 130’s.
TTSX bullets work, lighter ones work a little faster and flatter at the majority of real hunting ranges. Aim for shoulders on deer and for brains on pigs... no tracking necessary.
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I have been on the fire for a few years. There are times I believe I can feel brain cells dissolving as I read some of this stuff. Amazing at times. PS. I believe any weight 30 caliber bullet will kill a deer. If not prove me wrong. Edk ........if VA ever legalizes 22 CF that’s all I’ll use, because you are exactly correct deer are not hard to kill.
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I have been on the fire for a few years. There are times I believe I can feel brain cells dissolving as I read some of this stuff. Amazing at times. PS. I believe any weight 30 caliber bullet will kill a deer. If not prove me wrong. Edk ........if VA ever legalizes 22 CF that’s all I’ll use, because you are exactly correct deer are not hard to kill. We have killed many 150-200 lb pigs with a 62 Barnes out of AR’s. I think they would easily kill a 125 lb whitetail.
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Pretty nice doe!  Last month 178 yds, .308 .130gr TSX...I load them to 3010 fps which is plenty with sub MOA accuracy IMO...they just work period... .Last yrs late season doe 227 yds..DRT
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Browning X-Bolt .30-06
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I have been on the fire for a few years. There are times I believe I can feel brain cells dissolving as I read some of this stuff. Amazing at times. PS. I believe any weight 30 caliber bullet will kill a deer. If not prove me wrong. Edk ........if VA ever legalizes 22 CF that’s all I’ll use, because you are exactly correct deer are not hard to kill. I've killed my last 7 deer with a 69gr Sierra TMK from a .22 Creedmoor...it's good deer medicine.
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The 130 TTSX or TSX is seen as a great combination of penetration and speed. In most cup and core designs you typically sacrifice one for the other for a given cartridge. Typically you have to move up in bullet weight to achieve greater penetration for more reliable pass throughs, in which case you are losing velocity. But speed kills. While it is difficult to quantify terminal performance of a bullet, there is no denying the physics behind energy calculations. Mass times velocity SQUARED. How that bullet reacts once it impacts an animal and applies its energy is where things get a little screwy. Either way, on deer sized game, 130 TTSX gives you both velocity and penetration. Let also not forget that increasing velocity also increases bullet spin, which I believe also plays a role in terminal ballistics.
Now, as a fan of Ballistic Tips and similar bullets on deer sized game, I think you are sometimes giving up penetration in favor of expansion/disintegration. That typically doesn't bother me for deer, but I have had some unreliable performances when hitting shoulders, whether I intended to or not. I think the 130 TTSX in a .30 cal buys you some additional reliability when hitting bone compared to say a 150 Ballistic Tip. Here's the best answer so far...As with so many of these threads they always manage to morph into sub topics not relevant to the OP's questions.. You can kill deer with a good stick or numerous 22's however this was referencing the 130 gr Barnes and its terminal performance in a specific chambering. . Having used C&C bullets for many moons, some exceptionally good and some that puked on game my go to has always been the 150 or 165 for the.308 which IMO have always been the optimum weight and balance for 99% of most hunting scenarios. I made the switch several years ago and it s performed very well in my '99 300 as well..
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I've been using 46.5 Benchmark (IIRC) under the 130TTSX in a Lapua case with Fed 210M primers. Accuracy has been right at 1.5" at 400yds. I shot a nice 8 point buck in the chest as it walked in my direction from about 200yds. On impact the buck looked like it was pole-axed. The buck was literally slammed to the ground and never moved again.
Although that's just a single kill it's hard to argue against the 130TTSX in the .308.
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LOL....I’ve used light for caliber .308 bullets on eastern deer for years....IF I could guarantee two holes. Deer are not hard to kill, but they can be hard to DRT with the shot presented in the woods, hard to track in the thick if they go far, and hard to get a clean hole in the brush and briars big enough for clearing a wide trajectory at 200 or so.....so faster, flatter, opening quick, penetrating well, fast recovery for results, etc.....all outweigh any BC, drift, etc considerations.....130 TTSX and 125 NBTs at correct velocities are mild, flat, open fast, and penetrate. Stuff doesn’t go far, and they leave blood trails Ray Charles could see. I’m not stuck on the 308, for sure...other combos do it right, too....243/6, 6.5, 7.... If I’m hunting places where those considerations are moot, then other bullets and calibers are choices.
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SKane thanks. I like to get deer in front of me too, and close! Be Well, RZ.
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Used factory 130s in the 308 and they were really destructive and obviously a varmint bullet. I used 120-175 Barnes X in the 7RM and I believe the 120 X killed faster on deer and hogs under about 300 lbs. When the X bullet first came out the advice was to drop down in weight 10-20 grains from what you were shooting. I also look at bullet length too, the 130 TSX or TTSX is close to the same length as a 150 C&C bullet so should work for the same applications.
At the ranges I shoot at, mostly under 400 yards, the light bullets work well with the added benefit of less recoil. I might give the 130s a try in my 300 WM.
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I don't shoot a 308 but in my 30-06 I like the 130 on AZ mule deer. I get just enough expansion. I think anything heavier at the shorter distances I shot would be overkill. YMMV
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110 Barnes TTSX is Maux Bettah! 
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I load 130g TTSX for Daughter #1 to use in her .308 Win. It was more a matter of less recoil and adequate ballistics than my belief it was the best choice. I would have preferred she use the 150g or 168g TTSX but left the choice up to her. Her self-imposed max range at the time was 400 yards. At that range and 7000 feet altitude, that load retains 2269fps and 1486fpe - which is better than many 30-30 loads at 100 yards.
I also load them for my 16.1" barreled Ruger Scout. Although I lose a lot of velocity due to barrel length, it still delivers 2296fps and 1521fpe at 300 yards. Since this is something of a survival rifle, that is plenty adequate, especially since they shoot sub-MOA. (4 shots into 0.65" at 100 last time I checked.)
I started big game hunting in 1982. Since then I've taken exactly 4 game animals over 300 yards. While I prefer other rifles and loads for elk hunting, using the 130g TTSX wouldn't cause any worry on my part.
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I think the 125 grain Nosler offerings are great in the .308 Win at 3100 fps. I imagine the 130 TTSX would work great as well. Best thing is my Daughter enjoys shooting lightweight bullets without getting beat up by her Howa Alpine.
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