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I can hit, what I aim at, with the PF-9, EASILY out to any reasonable SD range. Double-taps to the cranium at 10 yards, are simple.




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The question I assumed was "is there a SINGLE STACK,SINGLE ACTION 9mm". To the best of my knowledge only 2 currently produced handguns meet these criteria, the Kimber Aegis and the Springfield EMP. Both are 1911 style with the Springfield being specifically made for 9mm with thinner frame and slightly smaller overall dimensions. If these are to be used as carry pistols they are best carried 'cocked and locked' as reccommended by most experts. Some feel nervous doing that. They are not easily concealed pistols in any case. One more single stack,single action was being produced but has just recently been discontinued was the H&K P7(PSP & M8 not M13) but it was a squeeze cocker and while the safest of all was again not easily concealable. The used market abounds with many single stack,single action 9mm's but it's pretty slim pickins on current production.

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Colt also built a Combat Commander in 9x19.




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I understood the Colt 9mm was out of production. They also had a nice Super 38 at one time but I think it's out of production also. Don't really know why ,probably didn't sell too good. They (Colt) do have a new 'Agent' which is the smallest gun they produce. Slim grip panels,no sights just a groove on slide, very slick package, but it's 45acp.

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I looked in the safe and just where it was supposed to be was my Chiefs Special Airweight 38 Special. I put it in my pocket and found that it takes up way less room than the new autoloading version that I looked at this afternoon.

Not only that put it weighs 14 ounces vrs 20 for the autoloader and has a trigger pull that auto's only wish they had. Its reliable and not ammo dependent. Not only that but it will shoot wadcutters and they cut and so do SWC's.

Glad I got that out of my system.

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Originally Posted by zimhunter
...One more single stack,single action was being produced but has just recently been discontinued was the H&K P7(PSP & M8 not M13) but it was a squeeze cocker and while the safest of all was again not easily concealable....


P7-M8, not easily concealable? You must not have tried it.


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I consider the P7-M8 to be a premier combat SA 9mm, and it is single-stack. I have no trouble concealing one. There are also SA single-stack 9mm models by STI and I'm sure others (including Taurus), in the 1911 pattern. And S&W still catalogs the target-grade 952 - which I believe is a single-stack - as a Performance Center gun.

Edit - Taurus hasn't given a release date for their 9mm 1911 yet...

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According to H&S's website, the P7M8 is no longer made.

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I would also recommend STI. Their place is so close to my house I can hear them test firing pistols from my backyard. My neighbor works there and gave me a tour of the factory a while back. Check out www.stiguns.com. They offer quite a few options in 9mm.


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Sorry about the STI's I'm really not familiar with them and don't know that I have ever SEEN one personally. I have several holsters for the P7 (mine is a PSP and as I stated I believe not being produced) and do find they are not very easy to conceal. While I like the gun very much it seems disproportionate in it's size. The grip section with the squeeze is very large and the slide/barrel is very short ahead of the trigger guard. I live in Southern Arizona and my normal dress is shorts and a knit shirt which makes concealment a matter of a pocket pistol which the P7 DEFINITELY is not. I also passed the point of being chubby and went to fat several years ago further compounding the problem. I have found the Kahr MK9 and S&W 640 to fill my needs quite well but the one I carry most is a Walther TPH which I am well aware is a .22. The main objective being if you don't have it with you, you can't use it. I was trying to answer the question posed 'single stack,single action,9mm' not what my preferences are for concealed carry.

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Single action, single stack 9mm's..

Luger
Polish Radom
Lahti L-35
Tokarev TT-33 (some variants in 9mm)
Beretta Brigadier & Helwan (1951)
CZ 52 (some variants)
French Mas Mle. 1950
Astra 400, 600, 800
Sig P210
Star BM
Star Model B
Star Model 1920
Star Firestar
Astra A70
Colt LW Combat Commander
Springfield EMP


There are more, but I would be getting even more obscure. The good news is: All are great pistols with the exception of the Luger. The Luger is cool, accurate and fun to shoot, but few of them are truly reliable.

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is there such a beast? if so, who makes it and where can i find one?

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Well the best is the SIG P210. Saw one in a gunstore Saturday for "only" $2,000. I thought it was slightly over-priced as it was a refurbished police gun with plastic stocks, and wear on the blueing.

But a good P 210 is the best of the best.

Yeah, I have one.

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Don't forget the Taurus 1911's in 9mm, they are single stackers too.

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Norinco M213...

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I just had to say it. Actually, it is a fair pistol but has some drawbacks like the effectively non-functional add-on safety and sights that require some modification to dehorn and perhaps more. The trigger is fine, the size fairly compact, and they are accurate. Carry hammer down on an empty chamber and safety off. The original 7.62x25mm version is a hoot to shoot. the lanyard loop is an extra!

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I appreciate the input folks!

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