|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,297
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,297 |
Been burning firewood all my life. Grew up on the Oregon coast burning alder and Douglas fir mostly. A little maple and cherry when availability. Moved to the valley several years ago and am using a pellet stove. Now we are in the process of getting a small second home with a small wood stove. This last freezing rain dropped lot of red oak. I have unlimited access and have a few questions. We want to keep the wood extra clean so I am splitting the sapwood and bark off. ( some of the trees are 3 foot or bigger) We have an outside fire pit for burning that. I cut and split some oak a couple years ago and it has been out of the weather. Very heavy yet but it appears the sapwood is punky. How wood you compare lake to fir and alder? Also lots of ash available. Does oak’s sapwood rot quickly?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 14,259 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 14,259 Likes: 2 |
I am your Firewood Guru. Love to burn red oak. If I had pristine red oak I would never cut the sapwood off. Red oak sapwood burns great it is inconceivable to me to split it off.
If red oak has been on the ground for several years I would not be surprised if the sapwood was getting rotten. In this case I would either split it off, or else, not use it at all. I don't put rotten wood in my wood shed.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 14,408
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 14,408 |
in my experience red oak does not last as long as white oak. you need to get red oak cut, split, stacked and covered in the first year or so or it starts to go bad. white oak on the other hand can lay in log form on the ground for 10 years and still be prime burning wood aside from the first inch or so of outside. i love white oak but burn a lot of both thanks to the gypsy moths.
My diploma is a DD214
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 806
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 806 |
In my 35 years of splitting and burning wood, I have found red oak and locust to be the longest lasting firewood. Ash and maple are the worse, for hard woods.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 270
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 270 |
Red oak is excellent firewood. But it does need split, stacked and covered to keep from rotting. White oak does last longer with out rotting and burns just as well. Both produce good beds of coals. But locust and osage orange, are better in my opinon. Both burn very hot and last longer than oak in the stove.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 14,935 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 14,935 Likes: 8 |
Oak and locust rank above all else maple ash hickory and elm 2nd paradise believe it or not is good also
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,643 Likes: 1
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,643 Likes: 1 |
Oak and locust rank above all else maple ash hickory and elm 2nd paradise believe it or not is good also Lots of woods equal or better than oak and locust, depending on the parameters... Lots of BTUs in madrone and no other wood leaves so little ash... and it is in the OP's locale. "Maple" encompasses a huge variety of trees with very different burn characteristics. Many are outstanding. Locust is miserable to split...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,172 Likes: 14
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,172 Likes: 14 |
Don’t ever burn softwood in the fireplace. Oak, hickory and magnolia on occasion. I don’t ever leave cut wood unsheltered or in contact with the ground.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 2,795
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 2,795 |
Red Oak has to dry 4 years.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,231 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,231 Likes: 2 |
you are in a lot wetter country than I am used to .
I cut mine, split it, and stack it on pallets (to keep it off the ground. I tarp it in the winter, and for a month in summer (july when it rains)
Our air is so dry, it dries/cures fast.
In west side Oregon, you probably need it in a shed, or at least under a roof.
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,261 Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,261 Likes: 2 |
Red oak, post oak, white oak and hickory make fine low ash, high heat, long burn firewood, anything over thigh size gets the maul.
Trump Won!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,029 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,029 Likes: 1 |
Sweetgum burns Hot.
That is all.
Dave
�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,259 Likes: 21
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,259 Likes: 21 |
I'd rather have the red oak than the juniper I burn, but both are better than pine.
I burned a lot of alder, Doug fir, big leaf maple, and tanbark oak when I lived on the coast. All of them serviceable for my needs.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 821
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 821 |
I’m not a fan of red oak at my place in NY. Takes two years to season so I give it all to my brother for his outdoor boiler. It also doesn’t really last that long in a wood pile either. Starts to rot after two years. Hard maple, ash and cherry are all nice for the fireplace but I can be extra picky.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 12,157
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 12,157 |
Oak is about all we'll burn where I'm at. Never any softwood, I've been told it'll soot up your fireplace but I've never burned any. If we happen to have a dead pecan tree we'll burn it but mostly when you say firewood you mean oak around here. Red oak is more common, but white oak when we find it is used also.
Sweetgum can be burned also but takes forever to dry and you can't split it. When it is dry it weighs nothing and burns too quick for my use, it's like burning paper.
|
|
|
|
88 members (358wsm, 300_savage, 358WCF, 10gaugemag, 257_X_50, 338Rules, 12 invisible),
1,278
guests, and
810
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,863
Posts18,497,215
Members73,979
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|