Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors Likelihood of the 99 coming back?

Compare any Pre-64 Model 12 to the re-introduced Y model or Japanese remake which were investment cast.I bought the Browning version in 1990 brand spankin and had nothing but trouble,jamming,cast part's breaking,and many other's have had the same problems.The only part that I ever broke in a pre-64 was a small spring after thousands of rounds.If you go out an shoot as much as your on the puter,you'll see your investment cast guns wouldn't last as long as you think Ed

Don't forget heat treat!

Couldn't agree more. I always get a kick out of the look on "dyed-in-the-wool-forging-equals-quality, they-don't-make-'em-like-they-used-to.......people's faces when I describe all the parts for 'quality' gun makers' products that I've seen being cast by Pine Tree and other foundries.
It's a hoot!

SOS

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow............................

Mike...

Ruger loved the 99, made many of his designs based on 99 idea's, and would likely still make a fine 99 today. Give my a detachable rotary mag 99, kinda like a 10-22 magazine even, I'll take one in 250-3000.

Better yet, Ruger has titanium investment casting down to a science, 99 titanium, keeps the weight down.

Funny , I have 20,000 + hot handloaded rounds through my Ruger GP-100 and replaced a $5.00 spring ..... come to think of it , there is less cylinder slop ( side to side , fore and aft )than Smith & Wessons revolvers have NIB .....`

I also have logged over 30,000+ centerfire rounds this year ( pistols , rifles and shotguns )and the year is slightly more than half over . I shoot more in the fall .

The reason why I'm on the computer so much , is because I have to work alot of hours to support all you " baby -boomers " .... buy less Jap ( Browning junk )guns and save more retirement money .... also , send less money to AARP . That way , I may be able to spend more time at the range .

Good one .... I forgot about that .

Heat treat? Is that like eating redhots?

This has been a fun read, not much on american history but is this how the civil war started? no could'nt be that was years before the 99. Jeez ive enjoyed this

Put me down for one in the short action 32-20 proto type style in murrays book, i'll take one in case hardend receiver and stainless fluted barrel in 19 calhoon badger, plus a 250 and 358

johno

Zero

Zilch

Nada

Even if Savage figured out a way to make 99s on a mostly automated production line, I doubt that they could sell enough volume to cover their costs.

I think that Savage is doing fine with their current mix of products and have no financial incentive to do anything with the 99. I've bought a dozen or so recent production Savage products over the past couple of years and think that the Stevens 200 is probably the current best buy in an entry level, lower cost, CF hunting rifle.

I think that Bill Ruger could have made a go of an investment cast 99, thanks to the experts at Pinetree Casting, if he had had enough interest in doing so, but it appears that he didn't and that part of S-R died along with WBR.

Jeff

I can't imagine putting up two large toward a newly made Savage. I seriously doubt I would buy a new Savage if anyone made them again. That doesn't mean I have any critical thoughts toward someone who would. I am mainly a collector and even if a new Savage had fantastic quality, it still wouldn't be an old gun. But, I do believe a quality gun could be built - it is just a matter of how much money do you want to spend? Better materials, fitting, general craftmanship can still be had out there - it just doesn't come cheap. Having said that, I think few of the general public out shopping for a hunting rifle would pay that kind of money. And most collectors, who are willing to pay big money for a rifle, do so because the rifle is old, rare etc. - not something sitting in the rack at every sporting good store out there. Finally, I will suggest that as far as rifles go, the mechanism of the Savage M99 is not an inexpensive one to manufacture. As a hunting rifle, it would be competing with less expensive rifles to manufacture. Many a rifle has been discontinued with this as part of the reason. The Winchester M88 comes to mind.

Just as well start making one yourself, you'd be money AND TIME ahead. Even if you had no machine training yet. GOOD IDEA HUH!!

Hey gd40eg Just read your comments to Lbk on the savage trip thread about how an investment cast savage would lose value when you walked out the door with it and wouldn't be as well made as an old one. Nuff said! Ed

If Savage brought back the 99 I would not have a choice in the matter , I would be COMPELLED to buy one.
I would have to get one in my hands to shoot , to compare to the previous production.

Mike

Yes , I did say the bit about losing value as soon as you walk out the door ... I did not say anything about the new ones not being well made ... I think they could be better made ...