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For those that have bought one, how has the magazine functioned? Any issues with inserting a full magazine on a closed bolt? Any durability issues?

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only issue I had with the magazine was the fact that unnder recoil cartridges slide forward hard enough to flatten the tips of the bullets. that seems like a design flaw that apparently Kimber is aware of and just doesn't care


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
unnder recoil cartridges slide forward hard enough to flatten the tips of the bullets


Laws of physics are a beech . . .

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My neighbor was looking at one for his step son, who he has been hunting with for a few years now. I know nothing about them specially, but have had a couple Montanas that I really like. We started looking for another Montana, but can’t find squat.

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I have two, a 6.5 Creedmoor & a .243
Both shoot great. A lot of gun for the money.

I do like the magazines. Bought several extra magazines when they were on sale & consider them handy. Have had no problems.

The problems you might read about apparently occurred with the1st generation of magazines lacking internal space & binding. If you tilt the forward part of the follower down & look at the inside of the floor plate with a flashlight, the 2nd & 3rd generation magazines show a numeral 1 or 2, the 1 looks like a plain line. (first gen shows nothing)

The gentleman who designed a lot, if not all, of the Hunter features while he worked for Kimber is on this site & might chime in. He is a wealth of knowledge & insight.

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It looks like a lot of bang for the buck. I’ve found more and more recently, with all of the rifles now coming out with detachable magazines, that they will typically be the weak point of a design. Just like pistols really.

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I bought a Montana used like new. It snapped on the first box of factory loads. first time in my life in a bolt action. The most expensive rifle I've ever owned also shoots like schitt.

I called Kimber and they want a fee to look at it. Most azzhole customer service ever.

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

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unnder recoil cartridges slide forward hard enough to flatten the tips of the bullets


Laws of physics are a beech . . .


laws of physics should be taken into consideration when designing such things. Not one of he various other detachble magazine rifles I use allow the cartridges to move under recoil


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All of the bolt rifles I've owned flattened the tips of lead tipped bullets under recoil.


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Originally Posted by boatammo
All of the bolt rifles I've owned flattened the tips of lead tipped bullets under recoil.

Yeah, it’s certainly not exclusive to Kimber rifles.

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Originally Posted by gitem_12
only issue I had with the magazine was the fact that unnder recoil cartridges slide forward hard enough to flatten the tips of the bullets. that seems like a design flaw that apparently Kimber is aware of and just doesn't care


That has happened with every centerfire rifle of every brand I've ever owned with bullets with exposed lead tips .. a total of some hundreds of individual rifles. (I assume your "complaint" is tongue-in-cheek 'cause you've been around too long to be oblivious enough to think this is limited to Kimber. I'm just replying in case someone else is noob / greenhorn enough not to know it. The answer, if it is perceived to be a real problem, is to use polymer tipped bullets like Sierra "game changer", Nosler Ballistic Tip / Accubond, and Hornady ELD-X of course.)

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Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by gitem_12
only issue I had with the magazine was the fact that unnder recoil cartridges slide forward hard enough to flatten the tips of the bullets. that seems like a design flaw that apparently Kimber is aware of and just doesn't care


That has happened with every centerfire rifle of every brand I've ever owned with bullets with exposed lead tips .. a total of some hundreds of individual rifles. (I assume your "complaint" is tongue-in-cheek 'cause you've been around too long to be oblivious enough to think this is limited to Kimber. I'm just replying in case someone else is noob / greenhorn enough not to know it. The answer, if it is perceived to be a real problem, is to use polymer tipped bullets like Sierra "game changer", Nosler Ballistic Tip / Accubond, and Hornady ELD-X of course.)

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I was talking about polymer tipped bullets, and I am not speaking of slight flattening, i am talking about mushed almost flush with the lead, like a penny on a traintrack flat


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Light rifle, significant recoil, substantial recoil speed = tips hitting the mag box harder and flattening worse. Especially if you're talking about repeated impacts.

What bullets are you talking about? I've seen some plastic tips with slight flattening, but never anything as severe as you're describing.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Light rifle, significant recoil, substantial recoil speed = tips hitting the mag box harder and flattening worse. Especially if you're talking about repeated impacts.

What bullets are you talking about? I've seen some plastic tips with slight flattening, but never anything as severe as you're describing.



it happened with both 162 ELDX and 140 Nosler accubonds. the magazines are junk you could shake them in your hand and the cartrisged would move back and forth


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Light rifle, significant recoil, substantial recoil speed = tips hitting the mag box harder and flattening worse. Especially if you're talking about repeated impacts.

What bullets are you talking about? I've seen some plastic tips with slight flattening, but never anything as severe as you're describing.



it happened with both 162 ELDX and 140 Nosler accubonds. the magazines are junk you could shake them in your hand and the cartrisged would move back and forth

Sounds like a weak follower spring.

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Originally Posted by gitem_12
the magazines are junk you could shake them in your hand and the cartrisged would move back and forth


You know, you could try seating the bullets so the loaded cartridge just barely fits the mag box. smirk

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

Originally Posted by gitem_12
the magazines are junk you could shake them in your hand and the cartrisged would move back and forth


You know, you could try seating the bullets so the loaded cartridge just barely fits the mag box. smirk



or the company could not make [bleep] equipment


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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

Originally Posted by gitem_12
the magazines are junk you could shake them in your hand and the cartrisged would move back and forth


You know, you could try seating the bullets so the loaded cartridge just barely fits the mag box. smirk


i called Kiber adn was told what I was experiencingw as a common problem that they were aware of. when I asked how to remedy it or if they had corected the problem I was "transferred to service" where "service" never picked up the phone


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Originally Posted by boatammo
All of the bolt rifles I've owned flattened the tips of lead tipped bullets under recoil.


I had a Weatherby 30-378 that would blow the Accubond tip off the next round in the magazine pan to be chambered.

Second shot, if needed, was a gaping hollow point.

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