24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
4
45_100 Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
4
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
I have a lot of puncture vine i am trying to control. Roundup works well to kill the vine but it is a very prolific seed producer. The plant starts to bloom early so there is immature seed just a few days after germination. Roundup is absorbed through the leaves and translocated into the roots so it makes sense it will be translocated into the maturing seed as well. Dooes anyone know if the resulting mature seed will be viable or will the Roundup keep it from germinating?

GB1

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61,311
Likes: 33
W
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
W
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61,311
Likes: 33
Ask your county extenuation office, they should help.


These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,155
3
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
3
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,155
Not sure about your exact question, but you probably have a seed pool you need to exhaust. I have a small patch that appeared after a garage build where fill was brought in. I pull every plant as soon as I can, before flowering, so no seed produced. This is the 2nd year with new plants appearing regularly and often. Hate that plant.

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,249
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,249
That mature seed will be viable for seven years or until conditions are right.
Your best bet as always it to get em while they're young.


I could wish a lot of things on my worst enemy but neuropathy ain't one of them.
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
4
45_100 Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
4
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
You are both correct about the best way to get rid of them. Best thing is to pull them up and put them in a bucket or barrel and burn them.as soon as possible after they germinate. I am dealing with about ten acres. I did not realize the seed was viable for seven years. You are correct about the seed pool. Thanks for your input.

IC B2

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,521
L
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
L
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,521
Not knowing what puncture vine is, I did a quick duckduckgo.com search and the first thing is a listing to buy seeds for the plant.
Once I figured out that it is what we called "Goat heads" I shared your hatred and wondered why anyone would plant them.
Durn things were the bane of kids that wanted to go barefooot.
Do not . . . NOT miss them a bit . . . sandburs also.!


Some spelling errors can be corrected by a vowel movement.
~ MOLON LABE ~
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 11,415
Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 11,415
Likes: 2
I didn't know what it was either, had to google it, always heard it as "Mexican Goathead" growing up on the farm.

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,521
L
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
L
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,521
One problem being in the dry SW US is that the seed pod (goat head) that is the sticker takes forever to rot so one gets stuck from years gone by.


Some spelling errors can be corrected by a vowel movement.
~ MOLON LABE ~
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,675
Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,675
Likes: 2
I do not see Roundup having an effect on the produced seed.

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,521
L
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
L
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,521
Nothing affects the seed, the goathead sticker, not the viability, but time (rot) and in the dry SW US, that is a darned SLOW process.

Last edited by LouisB; 08/21/21. Reason: clarification

Some spelling errors can be corrected by a vowel movement.
~ MOLON LABE ~
IC B3

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
4
45_100 Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
4
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
Thanks for your input. I suspect it all depends on the maturity of the seed at application. More mature seed would still germinate. Very immature seed might not. It doesnt appear to be hard to kill but it sure produces lots of seed.

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,249
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,249
One definition of a weed is "prolific seed production"


I could wish a lot of things on my worst enemy but neuropathy ain't one of them.
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,780
Likes: 42
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,780
Likes: 42
Originally Posted by LouisB
Nothing affects the seed but time (rot) and in the dry SW US, that is a darned SLOW process.



Fire does.

I've used a pear burner on areas where goatheads had taken over.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
4
45_100 Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
4
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
Originally Posted by Kenlguy
One definition of a weed is "prolific seed production"


That's for sure!

Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Fire does.

I've used a pear burner on areas where goatheads had taken over.


Did you burn them while they were still green and growing?

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,780
Likes: 42
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,780
Likes: 42
Originally Posted by 45_100
Originally Posted by Kenlguy
One definition of a weed is "prolific seed production"


That's for sure!

Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Fire does.

I've used a pear burner on areas where goatheads had taken over.


Did you burn them while they were still green and growing?



Yes.

And the ground around the plant after glyphosate.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
4
45_100 Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
4
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,981
Likes: 10
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by 45_100
Originally Posted by Kenlguy
One definition of a weed is "prolific seed production"


That's for sure!

Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Fire does.

I've used a pear burner on areas where goatheads had taken over.


Did you burn them while they were still green and growing?



Yes.

And the ground around the plant after glyphosate.


Thanks for that. I will give it a try. I have a couple weed burners we use to heat branding irons.


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

565 members (10Glocks, 163bc, 12344mag, 10gaugeman, 1234, 160user, 56 invisible), 2,201 guests, and 1,089 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,564
Posts18,531,693
Members74,039
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.102s Queries: 46 (0.027s) Memory: 0.8700 MB (Peak: 0.9514 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-23 15:05:25 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS