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Exactly

Were these risk factor for CDC employees factored in?

1. If you disagree with the narritive you may be unemployed.

2. If you dont agree with Faukki you may need to find another job.

Of course not. One size does not fit all, in any regard.

The FDA is not saying that. The person saying this is Steve Kirsch, an "anti-vaxer" who was speaking at an FDA meeting. The FDA has specifically refuted his claims.

It seems obvious that the "71 times" quote is false simply based on the fact that there are about 1.5 million heart attacks a year in the USA. 71 times that would be 106 million heart attacks. The hospitals would already be overflowing with heart attack victims. Instead, here in Alaska anyway they are being overwhelmed with Covid cases.

Just talked to a client who kind of dropped off the radar for a few weeks. Last time we talked before this a month or so ago, he was talking about having gotten the vaccine. He dropped off the radar because he had a couple of strokes and he has been in the hospital. He got home on Monday and now he has Covid.

Both safe and effective.

Facts matter...

No. If you've got it right I won't be marveling at anything, I'll be too busy roaming the countryside like Mad Max looking for food and fuel because everyone will be dead.

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Fair enough. Thanks for the response.

Regarding 99% agreement with your choice, would that be those who possessed the same information and had the same personal risk factors as yourself, or literally 99% of all persons? For instance 90+% of physicians, my 82 year old step-father, all 50 sitting governors, Mr and Mrs Trump. One percenters or just those of differing circumstances? No malice. I agree 100% with what you wrote previously. To each his own, there's nothing more important.

Bump. Pure curiosity what 99% was referenced?

I heard a doctor on the radio last week claim that vaccinated break through cases on average were contagious for just 3 days, and that the unvaccinated once infected with covid were contagious for 7 to 10 days. Can anyone confirm?

The above statement is obviously false.

CDC: "Getting vaccinated is the best way to slow the spread of COVID-19"

Getting the vaccine is not a 100% guarantee that a person won't get sick or spread Covid, just as seat-belts aren't a 100% guarantee that the wearer won't suffer from a traffic accident, yet statistics clearly show the efficacy of vaccines and seat belts.

This was written long before Covid became so political, and it's just as true today: Besides individual protection, vaccination programs also rely on population or “herd” immunity: the immunization of large portions of the population to protect the unvaccinated, immunocompromised, and immunologically naïve by reducing the number of susceptible hosts

“We have our freedoms and we have to live by that and I agree with that also. But it is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine and it is something that works...Everybody, go get your shot,” Donald Trump

In your chew pouch?

Actually, Tucker said the same thing as JoeBob last night.

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Fair enough. Thanks for the response.

Regarding 99% agreement with your choice, would that be those who possessed the same information and had the same personal risk factors as yourself, or literally 99% of all persons? For instance 90+% of physicians, my 82 year old step-father, all 50 sitting governors, Mr and Mrs Trump. One percenters or just those of differing circumstances? No malice. I agree 100% with what you wrote previously. To each his own, there's nothing more important.


So, what 99% (99% of what population) would, in your iopinion, agree with and act in accordance with your choice?

I personally don’t think the risk of this disease is strong enough for anyone to get the vaccine, but I’m not their daddy. They can make their own choices and live with them. Now of course, they are potentially doing a great deal of damage to public health as a whole with their vaccine driven variants, but oh well, that is more of a government and public policy thing than an individual thing.

But if we hadn’t started with the ridiculous vaccine push, this thing would be over by now. We would be like Sweden.

I've been saying that for months. It was, in fact, following the normal process of running its course through the population, and then disappearing, when the vaccines started, which then caused the resurgence. It can be seen on the charts quite clearly, and that worldwide. Wherever in the chart the vaxxes started, is where the resurgence started, after a normal decline, all at different points in time, depending on when that nation started rolling out the vaccines.

1 in 4 Males in the US die of some form of heart attack. Pick any 4 guys, and one will likely go out that way

I'd wanna know if this 71x heart attack risk is a killing heart attack, a relatively minor incidence of inflammation, or a fleeting arrhythmia?

With all of the hoard dying of C19, and 71 out of every 4 vaccinated males dying of heart attack, there simply must be a pile of bodies somewhere.
Where are the bodies?

Someone's niece died after getting the vaccine

EE died of C19, and I'd assume from his posts online that he was not vaccinated

Both of these are tragedies, and not to be made light of. EE was a valued member here, and I'm certain that the niece (nurse) made the world around her better. Sad that they're gone

But I say with all due respect that everyone dies sometime. And I don't see piles of bodies in the street from either viral illness or vaccination.
A little more than a year ago I polled members here to see who knew anyone who'd had C19. There were only a few positive reports.
I'd guess that if you don't know someone who has had it, or had it yourself, today, that you live pretty isolated.
At New Years, or so, they rolled out with vaccines. In the first months after it was pretty rare to find someone who'd actually gotten the vaccine.
But like the virus, if you don't know some who are vaccinated today, you're pretty isolated.

Vaccinations of every sort have all had their known risks. How many hundreds or thousands of kids actually got polio from the vaccination?

I hear guys talk about how they don't want anything to do with a vaccine that alters RNA or DNA. But viruses also alter the same things that a vaccination might, and in the case of C19 the risks of the disease in the long term are still in the discovery stage.

I do believe that the virus is worse than the vax. For most...

I've had both, and yet to suffer any great ill from either.

My mother in law died the same way. Two years before Covid19 was a thing.

The vaccine related blood clotting issue is a recognized hazard associated with a rare blood disorder. As of August there were 26 known cases nationwide. They are a specific type of blood clot in a specific area of the brain.
In the Western suburbs of Chicago is a large hospital operated solely for victims of stroke. It's been there for decades, and about half of the stroke victims got there due to blood clots in their brain.

Edit; There is no second jab with the vaccine associated with blood clots.

There is no "one terrible vaccine". There are three distinct vaccines. Different benefits. Different risks.

You guys do realize that the vaccination rate in Sweden is significantly higher than in the US, right?