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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet beretzs #16730404 12/16/21
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont PintsofCraft OP Campfire Regular
OP PintsofCraft Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont	Originally Posted by Brad Pints, seems like you've gotten good advice here from those that have actually used the 6.5CM/6.5x55 on elk and moose. Of course, the Campfire being what it is, you've also gotten a fair chair of surmising (aka guessing), egoism/narcissism, and plain stupidity. I often marvel that just because someone owns a 6.5 CM (or any cartridge) they somehow believe that gives them the authority to give advice on a game animal they've never taken with the round. I equate 6.5x55 experience as same/same. However, a 9.3x62/338 WM/ 300 Mag, etc., are not the same. Crazy concept, right? I've owned sever 6.5 CM's, and have loaded and shot a variety of bullets into paper from it, but I've never taken one head of game with the round. Guess what? I don't have an opinion based on experience, and therefore have refrained from commenting. What I've done instead is waded through the BS, noted the opinions of those with experience, and tucked away the info for the future. Am I special because of that? No, just endeavored to act like an adult... sigh. Originally Posted by beretzs I guess I just wonder in what world a well built bullet from the CM wouldn’t be okay for moose or elk out to 300 yards. But as Brad said, I haven’t shot either with a CM, only deer. When my daughter or young son draw their first elk tag I’m betting they’ll have a 6.5 or 7mm of some sort and I’d bet they’ll do okay. Just like my older son did with his 7x57 and 150 Partitions. Thank you fellas - I’ve definitely got some good advice to act on. Today I ordered a few boxes of Hornady 129gr IL & 127gr LRX - and yeah, I’ve never shot anything larger than 1 single deer with my 6.5 which hardly qualifies me to talk about things. Minutiae - I know I’m new here & personally enjoy some BS among general small talk but for some, but when the line gets crossed too often I have a difficult time connecting with their opinions - probably like everyone at some level. Maybe they wish they had more experience than they do so they talk something up beyond what so many knowledgeable folks have obviously seen - BTDT rule - I don’t know. Personally, some of my life experiences, I wish I didn’t have and others I’m grateful for - often they are intertwined. On here or pretty much everywhere, when I don’t know something I’ll ask as I did here. For me, I’m personally looking & hoping some for real-life experience and hopeful that the comments can add solid facts that we can all can grow from and perhaps drive our game to a new level. I sincerely appreciate all of the responses even if I don’t understand some of them because they are not what I’ve experienced or can imagine experiencing. Just me probably. The gun writer forum is my favorite & I really appreciate JB and others for their fact filled comments. Big Green Egg is lit - I’m BBQ’ing for the family tonight with this weird, warm Vermont weather. Be well all!

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet dennisinaz #16730410 12/16/21
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,313 L Llama_Bob Campfire Regular
Llama_Bob Campfire Regular L Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,313	Originally Posted by dennisinaz I have see "X" bullets in 25-06 and 270 Win fail to expand. Wait, that NEVER happens. Mule Deer, WAM and Smokepole are going to have to put on their clown shoes and dance around and pretend you didn't see what you saw because otherwise they'd have to admit a) they're wrong b) I'm right c) they're stupid

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730502 12/16/21
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,978 Likes: 16 M Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger
Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,978 Likes: 16	Dead elk. Dead elk Including my daughter's 375 yard one taken with a single shot from her 20" .308. Dead elk Dead elk Dead elk To be continued.... THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730512 12/16/21
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,978 Likes: 16 M Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger
Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,978 Likes: 16	Dead elk Dead elk Dead elk Dead elk Dead elk All taken in the last 10 years with .308 Win, 300 WM or 6.5 CM. None with a premium bullet. Sierra Matchkings, Sierra Game Kings, Hornady ELD-X and Lapua Scenars were used. None of these elk managed to escape. THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730553 12/16/21
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,293 Likes: 16 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger
JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,293 Likes: 16 W. Texas	Nice Mackay. Great stuff. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet goalie #16730567 12/16/21
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,303 Likes: 3 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,303 Likes: 3	Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by Brad Originally Posted by goalie I have more than one 6.5 man-bun. Love the caliber. But it isn't on my list to use for shooting through a bull elk's shoulder. Based on? Based on me having "bigger" rifles that I shoot well. 😉 Gotchya. You seemed to have a strong opinion so I thought it was based on actual experience with elk shoulders and the CM. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730669 12/16/21
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,575 AZ T Talus_in_Arizona Campfire Tracker
Talus_in_Arizona Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,575 AZ	300 plus pound Caribou bull couldn’t stop a 140 NP from my Creed. Great bullet performance. There’s no need for high BC bullets at that range. I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730728 12/16/21
Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 479 Likes: 1 Wyoming A Anteloper Campfire Member
Anteloper Campfire Member A Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 479 Likes: 1 Wyoming	I intend to hunt a cow elk this month or next with a Kimber Hunter in 6.5 CM. The rifle weighs less than 6 lbs. with sling & 1.5-5 Leupold & shoots very well. Will probably use Federal Fusion 140 gr. factory ammunition. I consider this to be absolute proof of the adequacy of this round due simply & irrefutably to the fact that a man of my esteem is planning to use it.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730733 12/16/21
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 1 K keith Campfire Tracker
keith Campfire Tracker K Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 1	Humm, I used a 243 win with 100g partitions for cow elk....you will do very well! 6.5 Creed, 140g Speer gold dots are as premium as you will ever need! Last edited by keith; 12/16/21.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730734 12/16/21
Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 479 Likes: 1 Wyoming A Anteloper Campfire Member
Anteloper Campfire Member A Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 479 Likes: 1 Wyoming	I AM indeed, quite a big deal!

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16730763 12/16/21
Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 479 Likes: 1 Wyoming A Anteloper Campfire Member
Anteloper Campfire Member A Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 479 Likes: 1 Wyoming	Nice Elk & Daughter Mackay Sagebrush! Shows fine hunting & parenting. Wondered why you redacted your face. Assume you’re working undercover amongst the elk?

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet Anteloper #16730771 12/16/21
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Raferman Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 4,813 NC	Heard he's actually Chuck Norris.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet Anteloper #16730807 12/16/21
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,303 Likes: 3 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,303 Likes: 3	Originally Posted by Anteloper I consider this to be absolute proof of the adequacy of this round due simply & irrefutably to the fact that a man of my esteem is planning to use it. At least you have the balls to be so honest! “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet Llama_Bob #16730837 12/16/21
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,229 Likes: 9 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,229 Likes: 9 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob Originally Posted by dennisinaz I have see "X" bullets in 25-06 and 270 Win fail to expand. Wait, that NEVER happens. Mule Deer, WAM and Smokepole are going to have to put on their clown shoes and dance around and pretend you didn't see what you saw because otherwise they'd have to admit a) they're wrong b) I'm right c) they're stupid Man, you're setting the bar pretty low.... DF

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet Talus_in_Arizona #16730867 12/16/21
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 22,737 Minnesocialism B bigwhoop Campfire Ranger
bigwhoop Campfire Ranger B Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 22,737 Minnesocialism	Originally Posted by Talus_in_Arizona 300 plus pound Caribou bull couldn’t stop a 140 NP from my Creed. Great bullet performance. There’s no need for high BC bullets at that range. Yes and so did a 143gr ELD-X for my caribou in AK back in 2018 - at 375 yards. My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet Dirtfarmer #16730881 12/16/21
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,905 Likes: 12 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,905 Likes: 12	He doesn't realize that Mule Deer has reported a failure to expand with the original X bullet. He's a Woodleigh homer, like Varmint Guy and LFC with Leupold.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet mathman #16730892 12/16/21
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,262 Likes: 14 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana
smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,262 Likes: 14 Colorado	Originally Posted by mathman He doesn't realize........ Could've stopped right there. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet Llama_Bob #16730941 12/16/21
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,666 Likes: 6 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger
SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,666 Likes: 6 Midwest	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob Nice small sample. While he's generally an idiot, Mule Deer is right that many hunters don't understand statistics. You're one of them. I've seen 10+ bullet failures a year for decades. It's pretty obvious what's failing, and it is a statistically valid sample although collected as a natural experiment rather than a controlled one, And Barnes monos are one of the frequent failures. Match bullets are the other. You'd be better off with a Core Lokt than either probably, but since it's an expensive hunt don't be a clown and buy some TBBC/Terminal Ascents or A-Frames or Northforks. WWP53D

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet SKane #16730981 12/16/21
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SLM Campfire Ranger S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 18,943 Likes: 2 NM	I’m thinking Skane is correct. Any chance you and BSA’ are related? Originally Posted by SKane Originally Posted by Llama_Bob Nice small sample. While he's generally an idiot, Mule Deer is right that many hunters don't understand statistics. You're one of them. I've seen 10+ bullet failures a year for decades. It's pretty obvious what's failing, and it is a statistically valid sample although collected as a natural experiment rather than a controlled one, And Barnes monos are one of the frequent failures. Match bullets are the other. You'd be better off with a Core Lokt than either probably, but since it's an expensive hunt don't be a clown and buy some TBBC/Terminal Ascents or A-Frames or Northforks.

Re: 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet PintsofCraft #16731120 12/16/21
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont PintsofCraft OP Campfire Regular
OP PintsofCraft Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont	Lol

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