Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters 6.5 Creedmoor for Elk & Moose under 300yd - what bullet

You guys meeting at the OK Coral at high noon....

Pretty cocky for an Out'e door writer man.

David Allen Coe needs to write a song about girly guns and manly guns.

Dont be afraid the kick will only hurt for a little while.....

Ok..


You Creedmore girls are about as sensitive as the idgits that shoot turkeys with Tss size #9 fairy dust sized shot....

Naw, it’s simple Newtonian mechanics.

Don't think I ever ran across anyone as concerned about hypermasculinity and homosexuality as two groups. Anti gun folk and Creedmoor haters. It probably says something about them but I don't really care what. Or who this guy is lol.

Asking mule deer to expound on the 160 Hornady rn bullet please. I have shot a couple of whitetail and had good expansion pass through on both
This with 260 rem at 2550 fps or so.
Thank you sir.

Fury,

I have seen the 160 do that, including both shoulders--and also seen it not reach the far ribs on a broadside lung shot. Phil Shoemaker, the Alaskan bear guide/outfitter, has also seen it do similar things.

The rifle I used was a Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbine, with the bullet loaded to a muzzle velocity of around 2200 fps.

Thank you sir. So it is erring on the too soft side at times yes?
Maybe the 260 has just enough speed to push all that expansion on through in my case.
We’re you shooting the 264 or the 268 version in your Mannlicher?

Its Newtonian alright....

https://youtu.be/YgftpXlD3DI

I dont hate the.Creedmore I just didn't fall for the Hornady pushed hype.

Holy smokes. That made my ribs hurt I laughed so hard.

LFC,

Well, gee. I happened to have killed hundreds of big game animals, and been next to family members and hunting partners who killed a bunch more. The total is now close to 1000, and I didn't just look at the exit hole (if there was one), or poke something into the entrance hole, to judge how they worked. Accomplished this while hunting in 14 different countries, often on culls. One in Africa lasted a month, and a total of 12 other guys took part, killing animals from pronghorn-size to eland and Cape buffalo weighing around 1500 pounds. That was the 3rd cull I went on in Africa, and since the other guys who went were mostly rifle loonies, a bunch of different bullets and cartridges were tested--including the Barnes TSX, which was pretty new then, and a bullet LB claims fails to open quite often. They were used in sizes from 140-grain .270 to 270-grain .375. One guy killed 24 animals with his .270 WSM and the 140, and gee, every one expanded--which I could tell by spending time in the skinning shack every evening to observe animals being taken apart. In fact none of the TSXs failed to expand.

But have also taken part in such hunts from New Zealand to Europe, as well as several U.S. states, probably 8-10 in Texas alone. Did this most frequently from around 2000 to 2010, when I spent close $100,000 on travel and hunting, in large part to find out how various bullets worked. This can be tested to a certain extent in various kinds of media, which I also have done considerably. But the best way to determine how big game bullets work is to shoot a lot of big game, then take the animals apart to find out exactly what happened.

Factually I agree with the humor and most of the criticism anent the attack on Barnes x bullets. However it is not good that we eat our own so willingly. Both directions by the way. Save that ammo for those after the whole of us.
Some facts to add: shot a lot of game withe original 180 x 30 caliber bullet in a 30-06. Perfect performance every time. Bragged on it to my buddy a lot. He was a 165 grain fan so I bought two boxes of those and loaded him up a very accurate load in his rifle for Christmas gift. That original 165x was very streamlined and we had several act like jmj’s on white tails. That means land where they were aimed, tip and tumble a percentage of the time and exit in a caliber sized hole When they tumbled we usually recovered the deer. When they, we presume, didn’t expand and didn’t tumble, we last a couple. Having used fmj, a lot in 223 caliber I recognize the issue. Wasn’t long before Barnes changed that bullet to a blunter profile and opened up the tip. My 35 Whelen 225 x original was as good a bullet as ever made. Hammer of Thor. I would not hesitate to use the current Barnes tsx or ttsx in any of my hunting rifles from 264 to the 450 grain tsx in the 458wm. The 500 grain tsx eh, not so much.

Did you take the hyped up 6.5 Creedmore

If you’re going to whine, at least spell it right.

THIS is what some folks need to understand. Looking at an entry or exit tells you squat. A bullet can perform beautifully, expand as designed and -- due to a variety of factors -- leave a small exit hole in the hide.

Also, I'll add that one example of bullet performance is virtually meaningless. Odd things can happen when high velocity metal strikes flesh and bone. Far too many will see what they think is poor bullet performance, stop using them and then condemn them evermore to anyone who'll listen. Or they'll get a dead-in-the-tracks results and declare that bullet the best thing since sliced bread...

If you're not using a Nosler Partition for anything bigger than deer-sized game, you're using the wrong bullet.

Pretty sure we got it right, but waiting on confirmation from LB.

120+ monos
130-140 bonded cup/core

If you can find any, 156gr SP Oryx Bonded Bullets