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What many folks just don't get, is that the smaller the person quite often, the less recoil bothers them. The larger the body mass the more you soak up the pounding. …
That doesn’t work for any of my three daughters. Daughter #3 wanted to shoot my .45-70 with my ‘Rhino Blaster’ loads (460g hardcast at 1812fps, around 52ft-lbs recoil). I started her on standard .45-70 (relatively low recoil) loads, then let her work her way up through loads with successively greater recoil. When it came time to shoot the ‘Rhino Blaster’ load I removed the scope. She found the higher-end loads increasingly unpleasant to shoot and the ‘Rhino Blaster’ extremely so. No surprise there, although all three of my daughters love shooting the .45-70 with my 300g and 350g plinking loads. (They use a miniscule 13.5g HS6 for 1167fps and 1097fps respectively with far less recoil than a .30-30. Hell, I love to shoot them, too.) Nor is it any surprise the girls love to shoot my .243 Win, .257 Roberts, .30-30 and heavy-barreled .22 and 6.5 rifles. They all find .30-06 recoil levels unpleasant and generally decline to shoot them, let alone my magnums. You should get your daughter a 300 WBY I would suggest you stop being an idiot but doubt you are capable. Usually people resort to personal attacks when they cannot use logic. So by that logic, the 300 WBY is the best elk cartridge.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I've never shot at an elk but if I did ,I'd use my 300 Weatherby.
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Would you camp at the Holiday Inn Express?
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Would you camp at the Holiday Inn Express? Lol
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Would you camp at the Holiday Inn Express? Yes
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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5 years in the making, 55 pages of text, 300,000 views=something better?! <grin>
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No, nothing is better, just hit them somewhere on the body and they go down. If you use Barnes you don't even have to hit them, the combo is that good
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And if it a Remington you don't even have to pull the trigger just take the safety off They make it so easy these days!
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Good point, and a Leupold scope to fail at the most opportune time lol.
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I'm glad I found this old thread. Its very interesting
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Anybody heard from Burnsfeld lately? Or did he finally succumb to toxic shock syndrome?
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Don't have any complaints about my 30/06,dead is dead
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Evidently, some are going to be giving the old tired 300 wm a real run for the money with the new kid on the block known as mr 223. Of course they dont state whether they will be spotlighting or taking elks off hay piles.
Maybe they wont be jump shooting big bulls in heavy timber or brush and maybe they wont be shooting 400 yds across canyons in heavy wind but you never know. I have my ideas about how things would go with a 50 gr sp into the shoulder of a big bull. Maybe it would tear the femoral on a misdirected rump it. Of course all hunters can out shoot Annie Oakley, in their own mind, anyway.
We did fight a war with it. How did that go?
BTW, wasnt i just reading about many man killer experts saying our guys need more bullet energy. Naw, probably our guys just dont shoot as well as a bunch of weekend warrior city slickers. Yep. Thats probably it.
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Evidently, some are going to be giving the old tired 300 wm a real run for the money with the new kid on the block known as mr 223. Of course they dont state whether they will be spotlighting or taking elks off hay piles.
Maybe they wont be jump shooting big bulls in heavy timber or brush and maybe they wont be shooting 400 yds across canyons in heavy wind but you never know. I have my ideas about how things would go with a 50 gr sp into the shoulder of a big bull. Maybe it would tear the femoral on a misdirected rump it. Of course all hunters can out shoot Annie Oakley, in their own mind, anyway.
We did fight a war with it. How did that go?
BTW, wasnt i just reading about many man killer experts saying our guys need more bullet energy. Naw, probably our guys just dont shoot as well as a bunch of weekend warrior city slickers. Yep. Thats probably it. Kawi, is that you?
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Got scope on my Kleinguenther 300 Weatherby. Can't wait to see how it shoots
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Now that sounds nice, hanco. Let us know how the groups stack up.
I do know that 300 wby mags and 300 win mags and 300 RUMs work well on elks.
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7-08 works wonders and a lot of 6 & 6.5's work well also no need for a magnum, unless you just have one
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This thread has inspired me. Just pick up a shiny new 300 Roy this morning. Will see if it can turn the blinkers off on a New Mexico Auodad here in about a month before I try it on elk this fall. Wish me luck.
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It’s a wonder that those that walked the Rockies before us in pursuit of elk could kill them with a patch and ball……
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