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I own nearly a dozen pot calls (glass, crystal, slate, aluminum) and never had a glass crack while conditioning them. The first Rare Breed I got came cracked. I went ahead and conditioned it anyway with the crack in it. I got a second Rare Breed and went to condition it with the included sand paper. Three strokes. POP! Another crack. Not sure what kind of glass Primos is putting in these calls, but it does not stand up. Seems like it's cheap picture frame quality glass. And no, I was not pressing too hard.

As I write this, it has popped two more times just sitting here, both where the sand paper scored the glass.

Junk.

First one that came cracked.
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The one I just got and opened a few minutes ago. It now has three cracks in it.
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It is rare to find one without a crack.


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Dang that is something I have not seen.
Hope they will make it right for you


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I roughed the surface, then POP while I was roughing it. Set it down and it spontaeously cracked two more time without touching it. That's a hallmark of cheap clear glass. Score and it break along the score.

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Sent an e-mail to Primos. I'll post their response.

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I would say they have issues for sure.


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Cracking has nothing to do with glass quality.

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Nonsense. Sanding glass is nothing more than scoring (scratching) it dozens of times at once in one pass. Some glass doesn't crack when its scratched. Cheap glass does. I literally ran a piece of supplied sandpaper across the glass and it cracked along one of the scratches. I've never had any other calls do that. And for it to happen twice, on the same model of call, suggests to me Primos is using some cheap glass in these calls.

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Its Primos, nuf said

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If you cracked it sanding it the glass was already cracked....or stressed by design.

What puzzles me is why anyone would put out a glass call that the entire surface wasn't already conditioned.

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I have several different ones, and none have ever
cracked after much sanding and use in hot hot
and cold cold weather and wagging around in
rough terrain.
IMO it's just sh*tty quality glass

( all that said, every one will probably split next use)

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Do you have to special order sh*tty quality glass"

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Originally Posted by LFC
Do you have to special order sh*tty quality glass"


Yes, it comes from China


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Originally Posted by LFC
If you cracked it sanding it the glass was already cracked....or stressed by design.



I'm thinking you're right.

I've made a fair number of friction calls. If the ridge/ledge the playing surface sits on is not level for some reason..........and you glue and clamp the surface in.........it will be pre-loaded with a stress when the gle dries and the clamp comes off. If it's bad enough, the surface will crack fairly easily.

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The could have been a chip or the beginnings of a crack in the edge of the glass that spread.

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If Primos won't replace them, I may pull the glass out and play with replacing it with something myself.

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I'd ask for a refund.

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Originally Posted by LFC
Do you have to special order sh*tty quality glass"



Just guessing
Probably made by the same kind of unskilled
border jumpers that now make the light bread
for this region.

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Funny thing is, the first call with a single crack sounds great. I finished conditioning it and the edges produce nice tones. The center section, just below the crack, is a mute spot unless I press hard on the striker.

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Weird. I went onto Primos's website and posted a positive review on this call which they published:
https://www.primos.com/hunting-calls/turkey-calls/rare-breed-slate-turkey-call/PO-PS2904.html

And a positive review on this call which they published:
https://www.primos.com/hunting-calls/turkey-calls/power-crystal-turkey-call/PO-217.html

And a positive review on this vest which they published:
https://www.primos.com/accessories-and-gear/vests/will-primos-turkey-vest/P1639960.html

But strangely, they didn't publish the negative review I left on the call that broke:
https://www.primos.com/hunting-calls/turkey-calls/rare-breed-glass-turkey-call/PO-PS2903.html

Weird. Macks Priarie Wings and MidwayUSA didn't have a problem posting my negative reviewe, and I am sure Macks Prairie Wings won't either.


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funny how that works


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Well, Primos is a Bushnell company, now. And Bushnell has not been known for stellar customer service.,

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I didn't know that, when did Bushnell buy Primos?


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No idea. But it's on their websites right up at the top.

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Originally Posted by pullit
I didn't know that, when did Bushnell buy Primos?

Close to 10 years ago or so.


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It took a few months, but read the reviews on this piece of [bleep] call.

https://www.amazon.com/Primos-Rare-...re%2Caps%2C56&sr=8-3#customerReviews


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Yup, Will got millions! I do like his video's.

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Glass is glass....where would you find cheap glass.

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I think you were right. I think it was stressed when it was set in the wood pot. Whatever the cause, it was junk.

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Even when a tree is cut the wood remains somewhat alive its usefull life....it expands and contracts when it takes on and let's off moisture. Glass and slate does not expand or contract.

A wood pot call is set iup for failure unless that is taken into consideration during the manufacture.

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