24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
K
KNC Offline OP
Campfire Greenhorn
OP Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
K
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
The used gun prices for this rifle are getting silly.


Thinking is not a team sport. I do not f**king care who you voted for, and keep your g**dam religion to yourself.
GB1

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,013
K
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
K
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,013
They said the first quarter of this year. And it was supposed to be the 1894 SBL.
Don't expect it to lower prices though.
The Ruger 1895s are selling for $3000

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,799
Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,799
Likes: 2
Dunno, but I read a review of the new 1895 yesterday that said they started with that because it was a top (maybe the top) seller for the previous maker. They will show up, but personally I want them to get them right, not rush them out the door. All the stuff I’ve read seems to indicate they’re taking care to do just that, which is smart. The Remlin line never quite got over the bad press and user experience with the early, seriously flawed examples.


What fresh Hell is this?
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,210
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,210
Might be time to sell mine. !977 one.

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 773
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 773
I’m looking forward to a stainless SBL in 357 mag!

IC B2

Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 426
Likes: 2
4
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
4
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 426
Likes: 2
Well, if they make it again with a .431 barrel for a .429 round they can keep them all. The one I bought a few years ago was the worst shooting rifle I ever owned. Somebody there had their head up their a55 when they decided on that barrel.

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
K
KNC Offline OP
Campfire Greenhorn
OP Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
K
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
Interesting. That is the first I have heard about the barrel being a poor design choice...but I have not had a lot of experience shooting them. Were all the 44mag 1894s fitted with that barrel? Even the microgroove ones? Or was that a ballard rifling choice Remlin made later after they switched off the microgroove ones? Or before Remlin maybe?


Thinking is not a team sport. I do not f**king care who you voted for, and keep your g**dam religion to yourself.
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,066
N
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
N
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,066
I have a stainless 1894 JM Marlin for sale.......


Biden's most truthful quote ever came during his first press conference, 03/25/21.
Drum roll please...... "I don't know, to be clear." and THAT is one promise he's kept!!!
Joined: Oct 2021
Posts: 772
E
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
E
Joined: Oct 2021
Posts: 772
Never. Ruger might make something along them lines and call it a Marlin .


Grumpy old man with a gun.....Do not touch .
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Don't bother my monument and I'll leave yours alone.
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 19,240
Likes: 3
B
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 19,240
Likes: 3
I could be interested in an 1894 in the right chambering if it were blued/walnut but they can keep that stainless/laminated threaded barrel crap as far as I'm concerned.

IC B3

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,531
P
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,531
Ruger could put curb feelers on the sumbitch and it’d beat the dog turds Marlin was putting out towards the end….

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,210
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 19,210
Originally Posted by 450BM
Well, if they make it again with a .431 barrel for a .429 round they can keep them all. The one I bought a few years ago was the worst shooting rifle I ever owned. Somebody there had their head up their a55 when they decided on that barrel.



I'll have to agree with that. I'm in a bit of a pickle over that very issue, having a bunch of .429 bullets and wanting to reload for a Marlin rifle.

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,422
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,422
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by 450BM
Well, if they make it again with a .431 barrel for a .429 round they can keep them all. The one I bought a few years ago was the worst shooting rifle I ever owned. Somebody there had their head up their a55 when they decided on that barrel.


I'll have to agree with that. I'm in a bit of a pickle over that very issue, having a bunch of .429 bullets and wanting to reload for a Marlin rifle.



I sold my JM stamped 44 mag Marlin 1894 (ballard rifling) for its poor accuracy ( 0.4315" groove diameter). It really isn't Marlin's fault-but rather SAAMI's. There are two SAAMI specs for 44 mag firearms: PISTOLS have a SAAMI spec of 0.429" groove diameter. RIFLES have a 0.431" groove diameter.

To me this is absolutely stupid, PARTICULARLY since the 44 mag is a relatively new chambering from the 1950's- not to mention "just because" this round would likely be used in both rifle and pistols. SAAMI needs to rectify this, and standardize to ONE groove diameter: 0.429".

Just hope Ruger makes their 44 mag version with a 0.429" groove diameter.


"Behavior accepted is behavior repeated."

"Strive to be underestimated."
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,013
K
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
K
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,013
Twist rate will be another big issue.
1 in 38 was the dumbest thing ever.
Make them a 1 in 20

Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 426
Likes: 2
4
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
4
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 426
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by buttstock
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by 450BM
Well, if they make it again with a .431 barrel for a .429 round they can keep them all. The one I bought a few years ago was the worst shooting rifle I ever owned. Somebody there had their head up their a55 when they decided on that barrel.


I'll have to agree with that. I'm in a bit of a pickle over that very issue, having a bunch of .429 bullets and wanting to reload for a Marlin rifle.



I sold my JM stamped 44 mag Marlin 1894 (ballard rifling) for its poor accuracy ( 0.4315" groove diameter). It really isn't Marlin's fault-but rather SAAMI's. There are two SAAMI specs for 44 mag firearms: PISTOLS have a SAAMI spec of 0.429" groove diameter. RIFLES have a 0.431" groove diameter.

To me this is absolutely stupid, PARTICULARLY since the 44 mag is a relatively new chambering from the 1950's- not to mention "just because" this round would likely be used in both rifle and pistols. SAAMI needs to rectify this, and standardize to ONE groove diameter: 0.429".

Just hope Ruger makes their 44 mag version with a 0.429" groove diameter.


If Marlin agreed to follow SAAMI specs knowing the barrels would be too large making them inaccurate, it is their fault. That’s just stupidity and is probably costing them a lot of money. I’ve never looked for specs on the other 44 mag rifles, like the Rem 788 or Ruger whatever it was but wonder if they used the same specs for their barrels.

I tried a lot of different bullet and powder combinations, cast and jacketed and couldn’t get anything to shoot consistently better than 3 inches at 50 yards. Oh, and I have a .432 sizer die and was powder coating the bullets to make them as large as I could but apparently couldn’t make them big enough And this was with open sights, two different scopes and playing with different bag positions off my shooting bench. My S&W 29 would easily outshoot the Marlin and I’m not a good pistol shot. This was not a micro groove barrel but it had the shallowest rifling I’ve ever seen.

On the flip side, it is the reason I now own a CVA Cascade in 450 Bushmaster so there was good that came out of the Marlin.

I’m glad it’s gone…

Last edited by 450BM; 03/06/22.
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,170
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,170
My distributor says it's going to be 336 next, 39 then possibly 94.
Gonna stomp henry.
The quality of the new one is amazing. Sub MOA with federal fusion.


TRUMP- GABBARD 2024
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
K
KNC Offline OP
Campfire Greenhorn
OP Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
K
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 28
Wait...this is the first optimistic news I have heard about this. It makes sense they start with the 336...and it occurs to me that back in the late 1970s or early 1980s they did chamber that model in 44mag for a short time (I wonder what the barrel diameter on that one was?). I will have to do some of that "online research" everyone seems to do.

Still like the look of the 1894, though. I always preferred that to the Winchester lever guns as well, and it was the first deer rifle I ever used. Something about the Henry makes me think it isn't as robust as Marlin, but that is almost certainly only my imagination, and I have never really shot Henrys more than a few times. But Marlin is sure going to have to recapture some of the market share that Henry has taken from them...which is what made me think to start this thread in the first place, since I figure the competition will drive the silly prices for lever guns down to earth.


Thinking is not a team sport. I do not f**king care who you voted for, and keep your g**dam religion to yourself.
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,934
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,934
In looking at various forums, it appears that there is more demand for a 1894 than a 336. .357 seems to be sought after more than the others.

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 19,240
Likes: 3
B
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 19,240
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by devnull
In looking at various forums, it appears that there is more demand for a 1894 than a 336. .357 seems to be sought after more than the others.
.357's have always been in short supply. Never could understand why they didn't make more of those.

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,943
D
djb Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,943
Originally Posted by 450BM
Well, if they make it again with a .431 barrel for a .429 round they can keep them all. The one I bought a few years ago was the worst shooting rifle I ever owned. Somebody there had their head up their a55 when they decided on that barrel.


This!


The truth angers those whom it does not convince
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

694 members (007FJ, 10ring1, 10gaugemag, 1beaver_shooter, 160user, 76 invisible), 3,111 guests, and 1,323 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,106
Posts18,483,278
Members73,966
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.167s Queries: 55 (0.012s) Memory: 0.9061 MB (Peak: 1.0210 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-02 02:33:28 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS