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Anyone have a CZ 600? Looking at the 600 lux but wanted some feedback on the gun? They any good? Any issues?

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-600-lux/

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It was pure blasphemy replacing the 527 with the 600. Many of us aren’t ready to forgive CZ yet.

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I like the 527…..from an aesthetics and nostalgia standpoint…..but the 600 probably improves upon functionality and usefulness in many areas for many folks.

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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
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I like the 527…..from an aesthetics and nostalgia standpoint…..but the 600 probably improves upon functionality and usefulness in many areas for many folks.



Maybe the primates who couldn't figure out the safety of the 527 will be happy, but I'm not happy about the 527 being replaced.

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I'm not interested in anything CZ makes now. Love their older stuff

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I like the fast twist in some of the chamberings, and am curious about the max COAL each magazine size can accommodate.

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Was kinda interested in a .223 Lux until I saw they were 1-9, not an improvement for me.

First saw the new ones when I stumbled onto the Euro site instead of the cz-usa one. Took a while before the US site caught up. Seemed clear they wanted to bring out a new rifle family, but didn’t want to expand to do it. Perhaps the old machinery was wearing out. At any rate, we’re only part of their market, and not everyone is hung up on CRF and other stuff we like. Europeans like multi-caliber rifles because of their rules on how many guns may be owned. The announcement stressed that old models were still available in the supply chain. Maybe.

I’m all rifled up, so not shopping for anything new, improved or not. I am a big fan of the new rimfire line, after having several of the old ones as well. Their 75-series handguns are my very favorite as well, based on the two I’ve owned, which worked flawlessly, and fit my hand very well.


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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
It was pure blasphemy replacing the 527 with the 600. Many of us aren’t ready to forgive CZ yet.

Exactly. One of my buddies is pissed. He had been wanting to buy a 527 for quite a while, but waited too long and prices skyrocketed when the 600 came out. I told him live and learn. ha ha.. I think he paid a $300 premium over what they were selling for last year..


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I’m amazed at the uptick in value of my 550 American

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Originally Posted by Charlie16ga
I’m amazed at the uptick in value of my 550 American
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I let a 550 in 6.5x55 get away maybe 4 years ago due to bad decision making. Still regret that trade.


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Originally Posted by shootem
Originally Posted by Charlie16ga
I’m amazed at the uptick in value of my 550 American
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I let a 550 in 6.5x55 get away maybe 4 years ago due to bad decision making. Still regret that trade.

I have a 550 Full stock in 6.5x55 that won't be going anywhere

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Originally Posted by blairvt
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Originally Posted by Charlie16ga
I’m amazed at the uptick in value of my 550 American
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I let a 550 in 6.5x55 get away maybe 4 years ago due to bad decision making. Still regret that trade.

I have a 550 Full stock in 6.5x55 that won't be going anywhere


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Well, since they’ve recalled them all, to remove the interchangeable barrel feature, they’ve lost the allure for my purposes with that particular gun. They still have a better magwell than many (in the mini version), but Howa is about the only game in town there, it seems.

They should have kept the others (527/550) in production. At least they’d have something folks wanted, even if for differing reasons.

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Bought a cz550 American a month ago used but like new. 9.3 x 62 chambered rifles don't grow on trees I was very happy to get it. It's a heavier rifle but in this cartridge that is welcome..mb


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Funny about that recall. Was in an LGS Wednesday and the two they’ve had for a couple of months or more are still there, and the counter guy hadn’t heard or seen anything about sending them back. Also, I’ve seen a couple of articles that mention the problem and the recall, and given the lag time in publishing, I’m beginning to think they knew about this well before the announcement. Might explain why no barrels or bolt parts were available when the rifles shipped. Another puzzle is that the Euro site says they’ll swap barrels for you if you send them in, but nothing here as yet, last I looked anyway.

The Lux is still a nice rifle at a decent price for someone looking for walnut, and maybe something a bit different, but certainly not as compelling as before.


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Do any of you guys that have a cz 600 alpha in 223 know how long of a round you can fit in the mag box? Given that they're 7 twist it would be cool if you could seat out to at least 2.45" or so for things like 88g elds. Given they got the twist right odds are the mag box is only 2.26 like a pmag. Can't expect them to get 2 things right on 1 gun. If they have short mag boxes they should have just went ar mag like the trail.

If they had a 7 twist 20ish" option with a 2.5ish" mag box I'd be happy to give them my money. Even though they don't do stainless I believe they are nitride.

The 600 looks like a potential platform for the 6 arc and 22 arc. The 7.62x39 with a threaded 18" looks worth a try too.

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Funny about that recall. Was in an LGS Wednesday and the two they’ve had for a couple of months or more are still there, and the counter guy hadn’t heard or seen anything about sending them back. Also, I’ve seen a couple of articles that mention the problem and the recall, and given the lag time in publishing, I’m beginning to think they knew about this well before the announcement. Might explain why no barrels or bolt parts were available when the rifles shipped. Another puzzle is that the Euro site says they’ll swap barrels for you if you send them in, but nothing here as yet, last I looked anyway.

The Lux is still a nice rifle at a decent price for someone looking for walnut, and maybe something a bit different, but certainly not as compelling as before.

A lot of the first .223s in the 600 LUX came out already as planned and weren't subject to the recall...probably why your LGS never got notice.

I bought one, heard about the recall, contacted them with my serial # and they said I was good to go...it didnt apply to mine.


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Picked up the CZ 600 Alpha -- very industrial feeling - largest bolt knob (which sticks straight out) on any of my rifles and also the thinnest trigger. After seeing the cost of an extra magazine, $65, i'm just going to lock the magazine in place and top load the rifle.
Trigger adjusts from 1.3 ish lbs to 3 lbs with a supplied allen wrench (no disassembly required). The bolt has a little bounce when you extract as far back as you can -- haven't seen that before. Need to save my Cabela's points up for a nice milrad scope to put on it. So far i'm happy with the rifle purchase. Can't wait to see what kind of accuracy it is capable of.

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Originally Posted by rollerroll56
Picked up the CZ 600 Alpha -- very industrial feeling - largest bolt knob (which sticks straight out) on any of my rifles and also the thinnest trigger. After seeing the cost of an extra magazine, $65, i'm just going to lock the magazine in place and top load the rifle.
Trigger adjusts from 1.3 ish lbs to 3 lbs with a supplied allen wrench (no disassembly required). The bolt has a little bounce when you extract as far back as you can -- haven't seen that before. Need to save my Cabela's points up for a nice milrad scope to put on it. So far i'm happy with the rifle purchase. Can't wait to see what kind of accuracy it is capable of.

The mags are around $26 on the CZ webstore now. I have a 600 coming and I grabbed up a couple extra mags from the site. I think I will like the mechanics of the gun, but not the looks. Industrial is the right description. I am planning on using it as my hard use gun. The 600 is getting good reviews as far as how it shoots.

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I bought one in 243 win thinking it had a fast twist like the 6 creed. No data was published on the 243 win twist rate at the time of purchase….. so I rolled the dice hoping it was 1/8 . Rifle arrived … it’s 1/10 twist. I cleaned it, adjusted the trigger to its lightest setting, mounted a scope on it and headed to the range. All groups easily were under 1 moa no load development , just using previous loaded ammo for other 243. I sighted it in at 200 yards with 70 gr tnt’s and was able to keep 5 in .75”. Only thing I don’t like about this rifle is the lop.. 14.5”. It has a funky recoil pad and shortening the length will be a chore. I plan on gifting this to one of my grand kids when the time comes.


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Originally Posted by mistem
I bought one in 243 win thinking it had a fast twist like the 6 creed. No data was published on the 243 win twist rate at the time of purchase….. so I rolled the dice hoping it was 1/8 . Rifle arrived … it’s 1/10 twist. I cleaned it, adjusted the trigger to its lightest setting, mounted a scope on it and headed to the range. All groups easily were under 1 moa no load development , just using previous loaded ammo for other 243. I sighted it in at 200 yards with 70 gr tnt’s and was able to keep 5 in .75”. Only thing I don’t like about this rifle is the lop.. 14.5”. It has a funky recoil pad and shortening the length will be a chore. I plan on gifting this to one of my grand kids when the time comes.

M, it sounds like you got a great rifle. The LGS guy I talk to frequently here, had one in 6mm creedmoor, and he has been bragging it up. The one he has is the Range model. I like the looks of that one much more than the Lux model. Never have liked the humpback models.

As for guys getting mad about CZ discontinuing the 527, the 600 looks like a nicer rifle to me. The only thing I don't like about the Range model is it has a right hand palm swell. From the sounds of it, they are tack drivers though. Offering a 3/4 MOA, for 5 shots, accuracy guarantee. I like old rifles too, but the steel mag hanging down on the 527 has always been a turn off to me. Especially on a hunting rifle.


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I bought an Alpha in .308 when Europtic had a sale, just because I had a boatload of .308 reloads I had made up for my FAL, which I sold.

Paid $399 delivered with the CZ $100 rebate. Threw an MK3 3-9x40 on it and it shoots just under 1 MOA with a 150 NBT reload I worked up for my FAL. Trigger is very, very good stock is "ok" and it seems accurate enough to play around with. .


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I've seen some 600 lux 223 rifles for sale for just a bit over $600 new. I wish they were 7 twist not 9 but I just heard there's no room to seat bullets out anyways. The sights are large and different but the one model in 308 I saw with the sights impressed me on how functional they were. Something about those open sights made them very visible for me and easy to align consistently.

I like a lot of the features of the 600 so I'm tempted to try a 600 lux 223. The 9 twist should stabilize 75g Hornady bthps at my elevation and those do a lot of what I'd use it for. I kind of want to try an alpha in 7.62x39mm as well. The 18" barrel on that with the larger 5/8-24 thread pattern seems like a good combo.

The 20" lux 30-06 is interesting too but I'm afraid I'd find it too heavy like I did my ruger 30-06 guide gun. I don't know if you could have a 600 in 30-06 rebored to 9.3x62 but I've been wanting a 20" or so 9.3x62 with open Sires for several years. I've had different plans at times but never have got one. Probably best to just find another win 70 stainless classic or similar and have it rebored and shortenec and then get sights put on.

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While I have not yet handled a 600. My current perception is based on the mini action specifically. The short answer is the 527 had more caliber offerings. The 527 is a easy re-barrel if you wish for a less common chamber. Example the the 7.62 x39 or 6.5 Grendel is fairly straight forward re-barrel to 6mm ARC for instance. Seems The 527 223, 221 fireball or even the 300 blackout is another re-barrel to 20 Practical, 20 Tactical or 20 VarTarg.

Sorry, I am rather negative in the 600. Options for re-barreling the 600 was initially a selling point at intro. Year later the Re-barrel option has been omitted. Big deal from my perspective.


From my perspective the 600 trigger will be clearly be a step backwards from the 527 set trigger.

The stock options for this old school guy again favors the 527.

Perhaps the 600 will thrive going forward I am just not seeing it.

If I was not Comparing the 600 to the 527 I still see the 600 as a rather ho-hum offering. If you like a 600 offering, more power to you.


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Deeply regret selling off a 557, and then not buying the next one I saw at my LGS. Due to my love for CZ I just had to get a 600 Alpha when they dropped to $399 after MIR (also from EuroOptic).

So far it has been a great rifle, I have nothing negative to say about it.

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I have the laminate heavy barrel in 6 creedmore. Shoots into .75 as guaranteed. The only feature I don’t like is the cut out in the bottom of the stock where a bag should ride. Hate that but that’s on me because I never had one before and didn’t realize I would hate that. Edk

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I'm still in the 452 American phase and doubt I'll change. Bought 3 when they first got available. Got "talked" out of 2 of them but the last ain't going anywhere till i do.

Didn't realize the 600 was a center fire that's why i came back and edited. Oops.

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Originally Posted by Ky221
Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/16965856/cz-600#Post16965856

I like the 527…..from an aesthetics and nostalgia standpoint…..but the 600 probably improves upon functionality and usefulness in many areas for many folks.

Maybe the primates who couldn't figure out the safety of the 527 will be happy, but I'm not happy about the 527 being replaced.
Agreed 100%. Thankful I bought my 527 Carbine .223 in 2019. Topped with a Jap Weaver fixed 6X in steel mounts, and in its Boyt canvas case, it's my classy do it all farm/truck gun.


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Aluminum receiver ?
Goofy bolt knob
Hate the Euro comb drop
Hate the Bavarian cheek riser
Funky iron sights

Other than that, it's great !

CZ, bring back the 527 !


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I guess I'm the odd man out on this one. I find the 600 interesting do not own one but I have fondled and contemplated several times.

I had a 527 chambered in 223. it was the black model with a heavier barrel I forget the exact designation on it.
never could get it to shoot acceptable for me.

and that single set trigger well I hate the darn things. they do what they're supposed to with the lock time is incredibly slow.

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Originally Posted by ldholton
I guess I'm the odd man out on this one. I find the 600 interesting do not own one but I have fondled and contemplated several times.

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Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
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Aluminum receiver ?
Goofy bolt knob
Hate the Euro comb drop
Hate the Bavarian cheek riser
Funky iron sights

Other than that, it's great !

CZ, bring back the 527 !

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I handled one in .308 a few days ago. I couldn't get passed the aluminum receiver. I wish I had kept my 527 in .204 Ruger.

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