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This is one of the most honest, straightforward assessments of the situation that I have ever read. Couldn't find it on snopes either ......

This is certainly an excellent evaluation of where
>> this nation is headed.
>>
>>
>> No matter your politics, you owe it to yourself to
>> read and pass on so we all are informed of what's
>> going on in our world!
>>
>> Another assessment of where the US stands in
>> relation to the Middle East problems, this one is
>> from the guy who had his finger on the nuclear
>> trigger for three years as head of our defense and
>> response complex buried under Cheyenne Mountain at
>> Colorado Springs. He was the only person who could
>> initiate a nuclear attack after advising the sitting
>> president of a missile launch by our enemies and our
>> need to respond. No political or civilian type in
>> the US had more knowledge about day to day military
>> actions around the world. Everyone should find
>> quiet time to read this. As far as I am concerned,
>> it is exactly the direction we should go and the
>> consequences of not doing so are well thought out.
>>
>>
>>
>> John R. (Jack) Farrington Major General, USAF
>> (Retired)
>>
>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Middle East Imperative
>>
>>
>> BY: JIM CASH, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.
>>
>> I wrote recently about the war in Iraq and the
>> larger war against radical Islam, eliciting a number
>> of responses. Let me try and put this conflict in
>> proper perspective.
>>
>> Understand, the current battle we are engaged in is
>> much bigger that just Iraq What happens in the
>> next year will affect this country and how our kids
>> and grandkids live throughout their lifetime, and
>> beyond. Radical Islam has been attacking the West
>> since the seventh century. They have been defeated
>> in the past and decimated to the point of taking
>> hundreds of years to recover. But they can never be
>> totally defeated. Their birth rates are so far
>> beyond civilized world rates that in time they
>> recover and attempt to dominate again.
>>
>>
>> There are eight terror-sponsoring countries that
>> make up the grand threat to the West. Two , Saudi
>> Arabia and Pakistan , just need firm pressure from
>> the West to make major reforms. They need to decide
>> who they are really going to support and commit to
>> that support. That answer is simple. They both
>> will support who they think will hang in there until
>> the end, and win. We are not sending very good
>> signals in that direction right now, thanks to the
>> Democrats.
>>
>> The other six, Afghanistan , Iraq , Iran , Syria ,
>> North Korea and Libya will require regime change or
>> a major policy shift. Now, let's look more closely.
>>
>>
>> Afghanistan and Iraq have both had regime changes,
>> but are being fueled by outsiders from Syria and
>> Iran . We have scared Gaddafi's pants off, and he
>> has given up his quest for nuclear weapons, so I
>> don't think Libya is now a threat.
>>
>> North Korea (the non-Islamic threat) can be handled
>> diplomatically by buying them off. They are
>> starving. That leaves Syria and Iran. Syria is like
>> a frightened puppy. Without the support of Iran
>> they will join the stronger side. So where does
>> that leave us? Sooner, or later, we are going to be
>> forced to confront Iran , and it better be before
>> they gain nuclear capability.
>>
>> In 1989 I served as a Command Director inside the
>> Cheyenne Mountain complex located in Colorado
>> Springs , Colorado for almost three years. My job
>> there was to observe (through classified means)
>> every missile shot anywhere in the world and assess
>> if it was a threat to the US or Canada. If any shot
>> was threatening to either nation I had only minutes
>> to advise the President, as he had only minutes to
>> respond. I watched Iran and Iraq shoot missiles at
>> each other every day, and all day long, for months.
>> They killed hundreds of thousand of their people.
>> Know why? They were fighting for control of the
>> Middle East and that enormous oil supply.
>>
>> At that time, they were preoccupied with their
>> internal problems and could care less about toppling
>> the west. Oil prices were fairly stable and we
>> could not see an immediate threat. Well, the worst
>> part of what we have done as a nation in Iraq is to
>> do away with the military capability of one of those
>> nations. Now, Iran has a clear field to dominate
>> the Middle East, since Iraq is no longer a threat to
>> them. They have turned their attention to the only
>> other threat to their dominance,they are convinced
>> they will win, because the US is so divided, and
>> the Democrats (who now control Congress and may
>> control the Presidency in 2008) have openly said we
>> are pulling out.
>>
>>
>> Do you have any idea what will happen if the entire
>> Middle East turns their support to Iran , which
>> they will obviously do if we pull out? It is not
>> the price of oil we will have to worry about. Oil
>> WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE to this country at any price.
>> I personally would vote for any presidential
>> candidate who did what JFK did with the space
>> program---declare a goal to bring this country to
>> total energy independence in a decade.
>>
>> Yes, it is about oil. The economy in this country
>> will totally die if that Middle East supply is cut
>> off right now. It will not be a recession. It will
>> be a depression that will make 1929 look like the
>> "good-old-days". The bottom line here is simple. If
>> Iran is forced to fall in line, the fighting in Iraq
>> will end over night, and the nightmare will be over.
>>
>> One way or another, Iran must be forced to join
>> modern times and the global community. It may mean
>> a real war---if so, now is the time, before we face
>> a nuclear Iran with the capacity to destroy Israel
>> and begin a new ice age. I urge you to read the book
>> "END GAME" by two of our best Middle East experts,
>> true American patriots and retired military
>> generals, Paul Vallely and Tom McInerney. They are
>> our finest, and totally honest in their assessment
>> of why victory in the Middle East is so important,
>> and how it can be won. Proceeds for the book go
>> directly to memorial fund for our fallen soldiers
>> who served the country during the war on terror.
>> You can find that book by going to the internet
>> through Stand-up America at
>> www.ospreyradio.us<about:blank> or
>> www.rightalk.com<about:blank>.
>>
>> On the other hand, we have several very angry
>> retired generals today, who evidently have not
>> achieved their lofty goals, and insist on ranting
>> and raving about the war. They are wrong, and doing
>> the country great harm by giving a certain political
>> party reason to use them as experts to back their
>> anti-war claims.
>>
>>
>> You may be one of those who believe nothing could
>> ever be terrible enough to support our going to war.
>> If that is the case I should stop here, as that
>> level of thinking approaches mental disability in
>> this day and age. It is right up there with alien
>> abductions and high altitude seeding through
>> government aircraft contrails. I helped produced
>> those contrails for almost 30 years, and I can
>> assure you we were not seeding the atmosphere. The
>> human race is a war-like population, and if a
>> country is not willing to protect itself, it
>> deserves the consequences.Nuff-said!!!
>>
>>
>> Now, my last comments will get to the nerve. They
>> will be on politics. I am not a Republican. And,
>> George Bush has made enough mistakes as President to
>> insure my feelings about that for the rest of my
>> life. However, the Democratic Party has moved so far
>> left, they have made me support those farther to the
>> right. I am a conservative who totally supports the
>> Constitution of this country. The only difference
>> between the United States and the South American,
>> third world, dictator infested and ever-changing
>> South American governments, is our US Constitution.
>>
>>
>> This Republic (note I did not say Democracy) is the
>> longest standing the world has ever known, but it
>> is vulnerable. It would take so little to change
>> it through economic upheaval. There was a time when
>> politicians could disagree, but still work together.
>> We are past that time, and that is the initial step
>> toward the downfall of our form of government.
>>
>> I think that many view Bush-hating as payback time.
>> The Republicans hated the Clinton's and now the
>> Democrats hate Bush. So, both parties are putting
>> their hate toward willingness to do anything for
>> political dominance to include lying and always
>> taking the opposite stand just for the sake of being
>> opposed. JUST HOW GOOD IS THAT FOR OUR COUNTRY?
>>
>> In my lifetime, after serving in uniform for
>> President's Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter,
>> Reagan, and Bush I have a pretty good feel for which
>> party supported our military, and what military life
>> was like under each of their terms. And, let me
>> assure you that times were best under the
>> Republicans.
>>
>>
>> Service under Jimmy Carter was devastating for all
>> branches of the military. And, Ronald Regan was
>> truly a salvation. You can choose to listen to
>> enriched newscasters, and foolish people like John
>> Murtha (he is no war hero), Nancy Pelosi, John
>> Kerry, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda , Harry Reid, Russ
>> Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and
>> on-and-on to include the true fools in Hollywood if
>> you like. If you do, your conclusions will be
>> totally wrong.
>>
>> The reason that I write, appear on radio talk shows,
>> and do everything I can to denounce those people is
>> simple. THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR THIRST FOR
>> POLITICAL POWER AND QUEST FOR VICTORY IN 2008 ABOVE
>> WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY. I cannot abide that.
>> Pelosi clearly defied the Logan Act by going to
>> Syria , which should have lead to imprisonment of
>> three years and a heavy fine. Jane Fonda did more
>> to prolong the Vietnam war longer than any other
>> human being (as acknowledged by Ho Chi Minh in his
>> writing before he died). She truly should have been
>> indicted for treason, along with her radical
>> husband,Tom Hayden, and forced to pay the
>> consequences.
>>
>> This country has started to soften by not enforcing
>> its laws, which is another indication of a Republic
>> about to fall. All Democrats, along with the
>> Hollywood elite, are sending us headlong into a
>> total defeat in the Middle East, which will finally
>> give Iran total dominance in the region.A lack of
>> oil in the near future will be the final straw that
>> dooms this Republic. However, if we refuse to let
>> this happen and really get serious about an energy
>> self-sufficiency program, this can be avoided. I am
>> afraid, however, that we are going in the opposite
>> direction. If we elect Hillary Clinton and a
>> Democrat controlled congress, and they carry through
>> with allowing Iran to take control of the Middle
>> East , continue to refuse development of nuclear
>> energy, refuse to allow drilling for new oil, and
>> continue to do nothing but oppose everything Bush,
>> it will be over in terms of what we view as the good
>> life in the USA .
>>
>> Now, do I think that all who do not support the war
>> are un-American -- of course not. They just do not
>> understand the importance of total victory in that
>> region.
>>
>>
>> Another failure of George Bush is his inability to
>> explain to the American people why we are there, and
>> why we MUST win. By the way, it is not a war. The
>> war was won four years ago. It is martial law that
>> is under attack by Iranian and Syrian outside
>> influences, and there is a difference.
>>
>> So, what do I believe? What is the bottom line? I
>> will simply say that the Democratic Party has
>> fielded the foulest, power hungry, anti-country,
>> self absorbed group of individuals that I have
>> observed in my lifetime. Our educational system is
>> partially to blame for allowing the mass of America
>> to be taken in by this group. George Bush has done
>> the best he can with the disabilities that he
>> possesses.
>>
>> A President must communicate with the people.And, I
>> would tell you that Desert Storm spoiled the people.
>> Bush Senior's 100-hour war convinced the people
>> that technology has progressed to the point that
>> wars could be fought with no casualties and won in
>> very short periods of time. I remember feeling at
>> the time, that this was a tragedy for the US
>> military. To win wars, you must put boots on the
>> ground. When you put boots on the ground, soldiers
>> are going to die. A President must make the war
>> decision wisely, and insure that the cause is right
>> before using his last political option. However,
>> CONTROLLING IRAN AND DEMOCRATIZING THE MIDDLE EAST
>> IS THE ONLY CHOICE IF WE ARE HELL-BENT ON DEPENDING
>> ON THEM FOR OUR FUTURE ENERGY NEEDS.
>>
>> Jimmy L. Cash, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.
>> Lakeside , Montana 59922
>>
>>
>> "I'll tell you what war is all about, you've got to
>> kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop
>> fighting." Gen. Curtis LeMay


Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other the person to die ......

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Wow. Good read.


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Thank you for putting this up, Boot.

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Good read.

Hits the nail square on the head.

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A real world, experienced comment on the situation.

What was the source of this? Can we find the original on the net?

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Contrast this with the ongoing thread about State vs Liberty.......(Anarchists)


And the RP bunch.



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Originally Posted by Stan V
Contrast this with the ongoing thread about State vs Liberty.......(Anarchists)


Yep.


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