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H4350 is in stock at some stores. Just gotta know where to look. I'll bet you haven't exhausted all the places where it can be found

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I like RL16 and StaBALL 6.5 a little more the H4350 here lately. Like others have said, good luck finding it. I e had better luck finding H4350 in the past year than RL16 and I’ve yet to see any IMR 4451.

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Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
If H-4350 all of a sudden no longer existed, what would be its replacement for you guys?

Pick 1 powder for use for 6.5 Creedmoor to 30-06?


It would be R16 for me, but R16 is even harder to find than H4350. In fact, Ive been able to get some H4350 lately, so once my R16 is gone, I'll be using it exclusively in my 6.5 CMs. If I couldn't get H4350 anymore, I'd be willing to try 4451 or StaBall but haven't tried either yet.

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No love for Varget??????

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I am really liking Big Game and Superformance for the 06.

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I love Reloder 16 and 17 but like others have said it's impossible to find right now. That being said, I've come to appreciate StaBall6.5 and Accurate 4350 for the cartridges where I would burn H4350.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
No love for Varget??????


Me and my 7mm08's love the stuff.


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Varget is to far away from H4350 to be a substitute.

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Am glad I have 4lb+ H4350 and a couple of pounds of IMR4350.

For 6.5 Creedmoor:

Norma URP.

BTW, Varget/4064 will work fine.



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I have had R26 on my back order list for a year, maybe even more, and it's yet to show up. I picked up some Staball, W760, H4350, AA2460, W748, and some Shooters World Precision Rifle powder yesterday, but none of the "R' powders are anywhere to be seen.
I only use H4350 in the 6.5CM, and then only with 140 grain bullets. I've found that my rifles like Staball better in the 120-130 bullets. I've also had good luck with W760 in the 120 weight bullet.

Supplies are out there, you just have to keep looking.

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Powder Valley had a bunch of the Reloader powders yesterday morning... for about an hour. Not sure if they had 26, but I know I saw 10x, 15, and 22 for sure.

I grabbed a pound of 15, and managed to score a brick of CCI500 primers, too. The 500s were the real catch of the day, since I burn through those like candy compared to any other primers.

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Originally Posted by krp
Varget is to far away from H4350 to be a substitute.

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Possibly. I like and use H4350 in the 6.5 Creed and the '06,

But I use Varget for the 5.56 6.5 creed and also the '06 up to 150 grain bullets.

Lots of overlap with Varget for me.

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I once heard Varget referred to as a "jack of all trades, and a master of none." I have found that it gives me some very good accuracy in a heavy bullet 308, in a heavy bullet 223, and for a 40 grain bullet in a 22-250 it is simply magic. Beyond that, I have found other powders that beat it easily.

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IMR 4350 then...


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
No love for Varget??????


I played with Varget and darn near swore it off and then found my .308 with 150 Interbonds really like it. Now I’m back to owning a 7-08 that loves it as well. Outside of that, I prefer the 4350’s and others in or near it quite a bit more.

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Yep if you like to shoot as much as I do you will need to diversify your powder inventory as maybe your powder of choice simply cant be found. I shoot a bunch of .308 Win and my powder of choice is Varget but we all know it is unobtainium right now so I also load RL15 and IMR 4064...Both of these powders have proven to be very accurate in My rifles..Good luck...Hb

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4451 for me as well. Very good as a replacement for H4350.

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Some general comments:

Have tried IMR4451 in around 6-8 cartridges where I used to use H4350, and overall it's resulted in a little better accuracy--plus similar temperature stability. (This may not be a big deal to those who don't hunt outside of about 25-80 degree temps, but it matters in Montana.) Have only had to adjust my H4350 loads by maybe .5 to 1 grain of powder to come up with similar velocity and accuracy.

IMR4350 can be pretty good as well. It's not as temp-stable as H4350 and IMR4451, but not bad--especially if compressed a little.

The others suggested as substitutes, such as 760, are pretty dirty-burning and temp-sensitive--except for Big Game, which is a little faster burning than H4350.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Some general comments:

Have tried IMR4451 in around 6-8 cartridges where I used to use H4350, and overall it's resulted in a little better accuracy--


Interesting to hear you say/write that. I bought an 8 lb jug of IMR4451 when nothing else was available at the start of our current shortage. and have been pretty disappointed. I was starting to question its accuracy potential! . I've tested it with a number of different bullets in a .243 and a 6mm Rem. Accuracy has been mediocre to downright bad. Both rifles still strongly prefer IMR-4350 and H4831sc with mid to heavier bullets and Varget in lighter ones. Since I have so much IMR-4451, I've been trying to make myself live with it. But... Any secrets? Do you find accuracy is better closer to max?

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