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I cannot find any info on this cartridge, but ran across this on GB

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/928671583


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Could it be a typo? There were a number of .41 Specials made back in the day, but I've never heard of a .40 Special.

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Maybe. The gun is stamped 40 Special.

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Could it be a typo? There were a number of .41 Specials made back in the day, but I've never heard of a .40 Special.

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Maybe. The gun is stamped 40 Special.

Some 50 years ago a gunsmith was overheard to say, "who the f*** mixed up the 0 and 1 stamps?!"


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50 years and a few hours ago a gunsmith's wife was overheard to say, "oh, George left his tools out again, I'll just put them back in their little boxes."


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WHat does the seller say?

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The gun isn't actually stamped, that's an acid etch. So the maker went way out of his way to mark it that way. So WTF is a .40 Special? I don't see any indication the seller has any idea.

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Under item chararistics it says caliber 40 S&W



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Okay I think I get it now. It's a .40 S&W Blackhawk, made for someone "special".

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From the ad:

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Revolver is marked. 40 special, bore is .40, but not chambered for 40 s&w


Seller also has this S&W. Looks like a 586 ??

S&W .40 Special


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Whatever it is it ain’t a patch to the Herter’s .401 Powermag.

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That Smith is marked SSK so it was probably some sort of rimmed .40 S&W J.D. Jones cooked up.

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Originally Posted by shootem
From the ad:

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Revolver is marked. 40 special, bore is .40, but not chambered for 40 s&w


Seller also has this S&W. Looks like a 586 ??

S&W .40 Special


Am I the only one who noticed this is a 5 screw Smith with P&R?
Definitely not a 586/686. They stopped making 5 screws circa '59.


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It is a 624 that had a 610 barrel screwed into it, and maybe a new cylinder (although it could be a 610 cylinder, too). Read the "Item characteristics.


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The barrel stamp on the Smith is said to be SSR 40. I find a number of resources referencing SSR as Standard Service Revolver; a competition category. Power factors are involved for the firearms and cartridges used. Just a swag but it’s possibly a revolver set up for competition. With the seller adamant this is not chambered for .40 S&W perhaps someone came up with a rimmed .40 of some kind. If so what straight cased cartridge would it be based on?


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Elmer Keith and Skeeter Skelton mentioned a guy named Pop Eimer who wildcatted several different .40-caliber cartridges, one of which was called the 40 Special. I'd expect to see Colt SAAs and older DA revolvers chambered for it. Not sure why you'd put it into a Blackhawk...


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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
It is a 624 that had a 610 barrel screwed into it, and maybe a new cylinder (although it could be a 610 cylinder, too). Read the "Item characteristics.

I agree that it's probably a 610 barrel. In picture #2, the "Smith & Wesson" stamping is off center, so it looks like the barrel has been shortened from the rear. If you look at the reflections in picture #4, you can see a flat spot under the letters "SSR" where it used to be stamped "10mm." I don't think it's a 624 because it's a five-screw frame, which was never made in stainless.

I'd be interested to see if there are any dies in the estate. They'd probably go a long way toward helping identify the cartridge.


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I wonder if it might be somebody's cute name for a .38/40?


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Under item chararistics it says caliber 40 S&W


The seller's response to my question about the item description saying 40 S&W:
"40 special is what the frame says, gunbroker didn't offer that choice, made you pick something to list it, close as I could get"


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He says from estate sale. He should have snagged the dies, too.


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