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I'm loading 41.5 gr of H4350 with a 100 gr NPT in a 22" x-bolt. Can anybody tell me what approx speed I should be getting? I like the load but I have no access to a chrony and I would like to get a turret done up for it.

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Fps, give or take a little is 3050 fps. Rio7

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Nowhere to shoot actual drops either?

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Originally Posted by mathman
Nowhere to shoot actual drops either?


Common sense if no chronograph available.

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Fps, give or take a little is 3050 fps. Rio7


2900-2950 out of a 22” tube.



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Originally Posted by mathman
Nowhere to shoot actual drops either?


Not past a couple hundred.

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This doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.

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Originally Posted by Killzone
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Nowhere to shoot actual drops either?


Not past a couple hundred.






Perfect just zero your rifle for 200 and call it a day. If you don’t have a place to shot past a couple of hundred yards you don’t need a different turret.



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Originally Posted by mathman
This doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.


The country is full of them. What all do I need to buy to shoot deer out to 600 yards. They will be more than happy to cut a check for whatever they need to buy. They will not learn anything about the gun will not practice but will pay a lot of money. Yea this rubs me the wrong way because I run into it all the time. It’s normally from the same people who send their kid to a hitting coach pitching coach and personal trainer. They play league ball and travel ball. They have the kid practice ball 24/7 but just want to know what they need to buy to kill deer a long way off. Not everything hunting related can be accomplished with a check. Sometimes you have to actually do things. Then learn from mistakes and get better.

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Originally Posted by mathman
This doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.



Huh? WTF are you talking about? Honestly if my original simple question is too deep for you please just fck off and go watch The Masters.

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Nowhere to shoot actual drops either?


Not past a couple hundred.






Perfect just zero your rifle for 200 and call it a day. If you don’t have a place to shot past a couple of hundred yards you don’t need a different turret.


I deer hunt 200 miles away on the Manitoba/Sask border where you can pretty much shoot as far a comfortable. My comfort level is way past 200 yds thanks but again, not looking for advice just a simple answer to a simple question.

Wow I forgot what a piss hole of internet cowboys this site has become.

Thanks to those who actually answered my question!




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Originally Posted by Kaleb
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This doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.


The country is full of them. What all do I need to buy to shoot deer out to 600 yards. They will be more than happy to cut a check for whatever they need to buy. They will not learn anything about the gun will not practice but will pay a lot of money. Yea this rubs me the wrong way because I run into it all the time. It’s normally from the same people who send their kid to a hitting coach pitching coach and personal trainer. They play league ball and travel ball. They have the kid practice ball 24/7 but just want to know what they need to buy to kill deer a long way off. Not everything hunting related can be accomplished with a check. Sometimes you have to actually do things. Then learn from mistakes and get better.



Wanna compare pictures Kaleb? You have no clue about who or what I am. Why vomit up your opinion?

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If you had a clue shooting way past 200 you would know you can’t ask a velocity question on the internet order a handy turret and travel 200 miles away and start blasting away accurately. Get upset all you want but it’s the truth.



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If you can't see the logic behind my comment then it's not me having trouble with the depth of the question.

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Originally Posted by Killzone
Originally Posted by Kaleb
Originally Posted by mathman
This doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.


The country is full of them. What all do I need to buy to shoot deer out to 600 yards. They will be more than happy to cut a check for whatever they need to buy. They will not learn anything about the gun will not practice but will pay a lot of money. Yea this rubs me the wrong way because I run into it all the time. It’s normally from the same people who send their kid to a hitting coach pitching coach and personal trainer. They play league ball and travel ball. They have the kid practice ball 24/7 but just want to know what they need to buy to kill deer a long way off. Not everything hunting related can be accomplished with a check. Sometimes you have to actually do things. Then learn from mistakes and get better.



Wanna compare pictures Kaleb? You have no clue about who or what I am. Why vomit up your opinion?


Pictures of what(our chronographs)? If you don’t know the velocity of your rounds don’t practice and depend on a Internet forum to give you the information to order a handy dandy turret then I know plenty about you. No offense intended just go shoot your gun.

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Originally Posted by Kaleb
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Originally Posted by Kaleb
Originally Posted by mathman
This doesn't seem like a well thought out plan.


The country is full of them. What all do I need to buy to shoot deer out to 600 yards. They will be more than happy to cut a check for whatever they need to buy. They will not learn anything about the gun will not practice but will pay a lot of money. Yea this rubs me the wrong way because I run into it all the time. It’s normally from the same people who send their kid to a hitting coach pitching coach and personal trainer. They play league ball and travel ball. They have the kid practice ball 24/7 but just want to know what they need to buy to kill deer a long way off. Not everything hunting related can be accomplished with a check. Sometimes you have to actually do things. Then learn from mistakes and get better.



Wanna compare pictures Kaleb? You have no clue about who or what I am. Why vomit up your opinion?


Pictures of what(our chronographs)? If you don’t know the velocity of your rounds don’t practice and depend on a Internet forum to give you the information to order a handy dandy turret then I know plenty about you. No offense intended just go shoot your gun.


I don't know why I'm feeding internet cowboys here. For the record, I'm 64 yrs old and basically done nothing but hunt/guide for about 50 of those years. I have shot many many many thousands of rounds out of dozens of rifles in many different calibers. You are not talking to somebody who just came home with a new gun from Cabelas. Your opinions and uninvited advice were not a part of my simple question.

I'm out.

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Then it should be clear to you why building a turret off of someone else's guess isn't a well thought out plan.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Then it should be clear to you why building a turret off of someone else's guess isn't a well thought out plan.


I do get that, thanks. My "plan" is to get some honest real life numbers from ppl who have them. Hopefully there will be a pattern to them and then I'll order the turret. Of course I will confirm the accuracy of the turret when I get a chance and if it doesnt jive I'll eat the cost and my life will go on.

End of story.

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How does someone become that age and not only not have a chronograph but not have a friend with one?

Keep being rude and I will understand.



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How does someone form opinions and make judgements about somebody they know nothing about? What part of my simple question did you not understand? I don’t remember asking for advice yet you seem determined to give it.

Go away!

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Originally Posted by Killzone
How does someone form opinions and make judgements about somebody they know nothing about? What part of my simple question did you not understand? I don’t remember asking for advice yet you seem determined to give it.

Go away!


Don’t get pissy. Now to be clear, I have used a 243 with 100 gr. bullets for about 30 years. Max velocity I ever got with a 22” barrel using 4831 was 2970. Book says max 2973 @ 40 grs. & 24” tube. You are 1.5 over, 2” of barrel shorter so if that 1.5 made up for 2” inches of barrel depending on chamber, throat etc. you should be about what I said before. Zero dead on at 100 then hold dead on at 200 and see how far it drops figure from there, not perfect but close.



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Thanks swifty but I was asking about 4350 not 4831. Appreciate the reply tho.

I’m generally not a pissy person but when somebody who knows nothing about me starts insinuating that I don’t “have a clue” it kinda rubs me the wrong way. 🤷‍♂️ Read his posts….

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