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SHTF? . . . . Ain't gonna be many Johnny Rambos out there shooting bunches of enemy. True ^ ^ ^ these^ ^ ^ I know of a bunch of cul-de-sac commandos that have their tac vest and operator clothing all ready for judgment day IMO if I were a law enforcement officer or soldier or one of the boys from "Road Warrior " or "The Road " that's the first place I'd be looking for victims to loot. The people that will make it will be those that are hiding in the bushes and not popping off magazines full of rounds as fast as they can jam one in their gun. Soldiers and law enforcement officers survive firefights because they can call in near unlimited back up personnel or call air support or call in a grid of artillery to make their point. Smart people will be avoiding any interaction with unfriendlies Whatever firearm you have at SHTF will most likely be adequate as long as you have a supply of fodder and can carry everything for 16-18 hours everyday Avoiding interaction with unfriendlies is a fine idea until it becomes impossible. Hiding in your house isn't all that good an idea either. I would think a neighborhood security plan would have to be put in place with checkpoints, a warning system and patrols.
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It doesn't matter.
You'll be dead within days, if not hours, if you go out larping.
But have fun with the fantasy until then I guess.
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If you're in the country (+50 miles from big city), a .22lr and shotgun would be dandy. If you want to be a Rambo, bump it up to .22mag. If you have to "move", it would be far easier to hump 500 rounds of .22 than a larger caliber ammo...weight and bulk.
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Pick up the guns and ammo from the troops that are dead. How well armed do you think the Average BLM or Antifa "grunt" will be? Seems they mostly carried matches and flammables. Not looking at having to face off with American troops or cops though in some states it seem the cops are the bad guys, for instance Oregon. I would expect that the BLM/Antifa types may come out a little bit better armed this time around. If they are half as organized as we think they are, the word has probably gotten around about Rittenhouse and the hardcore/militant types are likely to be equally prepared. If they come out to play, I'm sure the sound of gunfire will become a lot more common from their side....
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SHTF? . . . . Ain't gonna be many Johnny Rambos out there shooting bunches of enemy. True ^ ^ ^ these^ ^ ^ I know of a bunch of cul-de-sac commandos that have their tac vest and operator clothing all ready for judgment day IMO if I were a law enforcement officer or soldier or one of the boys from "Road Warrior " or "The Road " that's the first place I'd be looking for victims to loot. The people that will make it will be those that are hiding in the bushes and not popping off magazines full of rounds as fast as they can jam one in their gun. Soldiers and law enforcement officers survive firefights because they can call in near unlimited back up personnel or call air support or call in a grid of artillery to make their point. Smart people will be avoiding any interaction with unfriendlies Whatever firearm you have at SHTF will most likely be adequate as long as you have a supply of fodder and can carry everything for 16-18 hours everyday Avoiding interaction with unfriendlies is a fine idea until it becomes impossible. Hiding in your house isn't all that good an idea either. I would think a neighborhood security plan would have to be put in place with checkpoints, a warning system and patrols. Everybody I know wants me to join in on getting a plan together,,,,, I tell them, hale NO,,, I'm sitting here eating chipsNdips, honey hand me another pepsi, man I love this barca lounger
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SHTF? You need a few hundred rounds. Most, will never fire much of that.
Stock piles are for others, recreational/training, Or fantasy.
Ain't gonna be many Johnny Rambos out there shooting bunches of enemy. Exactly after watching many cave to the "shot", most won't do schit!
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What Shane said There's a reason nearly all of my centerfire rifles are current or former military rounds:
223/5.56 7.62x39 308 30-06 45-70.....(I know, I know....grin)
There is also a reason most of my handguns are 9mm.
Regular fmj ammo is usually available, and costs less than sporting ammo. I'm not a hoarder, but I keep a supply of 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, and 9mm on hand. When things get stupid, that plain old ball ammo will be looking pretty darn good.
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What Shane said There's a reason nearly all of my centerfire rifles are current or former military rounds:
223/5.56 7.62x39 308 30-06 45-70.....(I know, I know....grin)
There is also a reason most of my handguns are 9mm.
Regular fmj ammo is usually available, and costs less than sporting ammo. I'm not a hoarder, but I keep a supply of 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, and 9mm on hand. When things get stupid, that plain old ball ammo will be looking pretty darn good. Ditto here. 👍….+9mm. Magazine commonality is also a consideration for me.
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Keep the 30-30. Were not lever guns in a variety of calibers the AW of their day. It doesn't attract attention. Save the tactical stuff for when it gets nasty. I'm in the battlefield pickup camp as well.
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The hardest part for most will be getting their mind around what has to be done in such a scenario. Most can’t or won’t and all the gear is useless without the will to employ it.
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OhHale schitt bustin-off - shooting , cops out in force- announce SHELTER IN PLACE ,, SWAT comes to door with a warrant that says you're a felon and aren't allowed to own a firearm.
So you open the door and discuss it with them, now you're cuffed and headed to jail, you say help help but nobody do-nuffin.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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I have only a wrist rocket, and a bag of marbles. I can get what I need with that !
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I had a wrist rocket...used Taconite pellets I picked up along the railroad tracks.
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SHTF? You need a few hundred rounds. Most, will never fire much of that.
Stock piles are for others, recreational/training, Or fantasy.
Ain't gonna be many Johnny Rambos out there shooting bunches of enemy. There's a word. It's Survival. Chew on it a minute..
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The hardest part for most will be getting their mind around what has to be done in such a scenario. Most can’t or won’t and all the gear is useless without the will to employ it. There's a lotta truth in that right there.
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What Shane said There's a reason nearly all of my centerfire rifles are current or former military rounds:
223/5.56 7.62x39 308 30-06 45-70.....(I know, I know....grin)
There is also a reason most of my handguns are 9mm.
Regular fmj ammo is usually available, and costs less than sporting ammo. I'm not a hoarder, but I keep a supply of 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, and 9mm on hand. When things get stupid, that plain old ball ammo will be looking pretty darn good. Same same.. Although I don't own a .308.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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I wonder what the Ukrainians think about only having “a few hundred rounds” for a SHTF scenario?
Whatever side you choose about the Russia/Ukraine thing, there’s a lot to learn about urban combat happening right now.
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Potato gun with Russet wad column, 1-1/2 “ pipe b-omb launched at dude’s singlewide trailer stacked with Lil Debbies and a 410k’s worth of .22 ammo I'll confess that I actually LOL'd at this.
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