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Gents, General query re pellet type and manufacturer with regards to killing starlings and Eurasian Collared doves, etc at up to 25+ yards with a Crosman 1377 pump pistol. Pistol has been modded to include steel breech, longer barrel, Wilson adjustable sights, a higher pressure port, etc. Unfortunately I don't know what fps I'm getting. I have been dispatching E. doves at 25 yards with Crosman Premier pointed pellets. My best run was 6 for 6.
Stick with these pellets? Or try something else? I'm a bit overwhelmed by the choices, looking for recommendations. Thanks
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Get a good rest, and shoot some paper.
With pellets, weight is more important than shape, when tryin ta find the one that shoots best at the range a pistol is gonna shoot.
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I'm hoping to order up a variety within the next few days.
A question: can hollow point pellets realistically be expected to expand at all at pistol velocities?
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No.
But that's mostly because what you're shootin has no solid resistance, i.e., bird bones.
The skirt will still deform, cause that's what it is designed ta do.
Most important to a kill is the wound channel. Did it go through somethin vital.
And even if ya just wounded it, it's still gonna die.
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Makes sense. Thanks. I have yet to recover a pointed bullet from a dove, etc.
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Friday night I smoked a rat with a crosman .17 cal 7.9gn hallow point. I was very surprised that it entered and exited the rat. Exit wound was definitely larger then the entrance.
I figured I would miss the shot due to beer consumption. It was about a 5 yard shot.
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Friday night I smoked a rat with a crosman .17 cal 7.9gn hallow point. I was very surprised that it entered and exited the rat. Exit wound was definitely larger then the entrance.
I figured I would miss the shot due to beer consumption. It was about a 5 yard shot. He had it coming..
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I'm hoping to order up a variety within the next few days.
A question: can hollow point pellets realistically be expected to expand at all at pistol velocities? No. They punk up, at best, from a rifle. The HP's do have the benefit of being flat with a dish. For about the best smack and kill, Crow Magnums get my vote (a really flat faced HP) with a match pellet behind. Pointy and round are way down on the effective list.
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I'd stick with what works.
I always go for the most accurate pellets in my air guns, though, the pellet design isn't really something I worry about all that much. Pretty much any of them do the job if you put them where you're aiming, especially on little birds or mice/rats
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Try several flat point pellets. At the ranges you are talking they should shoot fine and they hit with a pop. Minimal shoot throughs, all energy dumped in the critter.
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Appreciate all the suggestions. Think I'll try a little of everything and see what shoots best, then try those on the starlings and Collared doves
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amazon has H&N hunting pellet assortment pack as well as othe manufactures assortment. See what shoots most accurate in your rifle.
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Generally, 10 pumps is about 600fps in a 1377. Maybe you have a smidge more? Anyway a 8 grain pellet at 600 would be 6+ ft/lbs, and a 10 grainer about 8 ft/lbs at the muzzle. I would be trying the heavier pellet, and testing for accuracy.
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Terry Very helpful, thanks
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