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And those same fools advocate a 16 year old voter age.
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And those same fools advocate a 16 year old voter age. Curious to me why they haven't gone to 16 already..... nothing really stopping them.
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Raising the age to vote and to buy a firearm to 21 would be a good move for anyone not in the military. Would solve a lot of problems today! Raising the legal age to vote to 30 would solve almost.every problem this nation faces. But that is no more reasonable than treading on 1'st or 2'nd Amendment rights. So, lets just repeal the 26'th as a compromise.
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And those same fools advocate a 16 year old voter age. Curious to me why they haven't gone to 16 already..... nothing really stopping them. Never could get enough states to ratify a Cont. Amendment. Same reason ERA is not law.
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And those same fools advocate a 16 year old voter age. Curious to me why they haven't gone to 16 already..... nothing really stopping them. Never could get enough states to ratify a Cont. Amendment. Same reason ERA is not law. See, that's the rub, California et.al. doesn't NEED anything to be ratified by any other State..... they can pass State Law allowing 16yo to vote and it's done. It is not a violation of the Constitution to do so. Art. 26 Sec. 1 - '...The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age...' NOTHING within Art. 26 says that a 16yo CANNOT vote................ It also does NOT say that NON citizens are prohibited from voting(IIRC there are nearly a dozen municipalities that allow non-citizen voting).... Those are STATE issues...
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Very few "Numb-nutz" on the street corner as sharp as a recently graduated Marine Private, regardless of age.
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If the age had been 21, then 20 year old Adam Lanza wouldn't have murdered his mother and stolen her gun to shoot up the Sandy Hook school.
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If the age had been 21, then 20 year old Adam Lanza wouldn't have murdered his mother and stolen her gun to shoot up the Sandy Hook school. Except for the fact that 20 year old Adam Lanza didn't own any guns. He killed his mother and took hers. She was over 21.
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And those same fools advocate a 16 year old voter age. Curious to me why they haven't gone to 16 already..... nothing really stopping them. Never could get enough states to ratify a Cont. Amendment. Same reason ERA is not law. See, that's the rub, California et.al. doesn't NEED anything to be ratified by any other State..... they can pass State Law allowing 16yo to vote and it's done. It is not a violation of the Constitution to do so. Art. 26 Sec. 1 - '...The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age...' NOTHING within Art. 26 says that a 16yo CANNOT vote................ It also does NOT say that NON citizens are prohibited from voting(IIRC there are nearly a dozen municipalities that allow non-citizen voting).... Those are STATE issues... Thank you for the correctiom.
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I'm a big believer in 21 as long as it's across the board. 21 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol, 21 to buy a firearm and 21 to join the military.
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It’s bull schit. You’re either an adult or not. We have all met 50 year old men and women who are a long ways from being an "adult"..
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I bought my first firearm, a Cooey Model 600 22LR, shortly after I turned 14. I never even thought of shooting someone. I just wanted to shoot ground squirrels (gophers), magpies, crows and starlings. Rabbits and grouse.
About 6 months later, the law changed and I was too young for a FAC (Firearms Acquisition Certificate, required to purchase a firearm) and would have to wait until I was 16 to get the FAC.
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I bought my first firearm, a Cooey Model 600 22LR, shortly after I turned 14. I never even thought of shooting someone. I just wanted to shoot ground squirrels (gophers), magpies, crows and starlings. Rabbits and grouse. Times have changed. I too "bought" my first firearm when I was 14 with my paper route money, a Winchester 9422 XTR, I still have it.
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I think its troublesome that some of you seem to agree with the age being 18 or older to purchase or own a firearm. Because why? I think SCOTUS should, when they deliver the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen ruling, include language to the effect the "the age to buy any firearm in any state will be the same age as that state requires to vote; and the ID requirements to purchase a firearm will be the same as that state requires to vote." Which will, of course, cause the Democrat-run states and cities to revolt. ' Cause rights should not exist with differing standards between the rights.
At least according to me. Therein lies the problem, and why less and less people are taking Democrats seriously. A year or 2 ago they wanted to lower the voting age to 16, but now they claim an 18 year olds brain isnt developed enough to buy a firearm.
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The age should be 17 to buy or own any firearm.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246#:~:text=The%20militia%20of%20the%20United%20States%20consists%20of,States%20who%20are%20members%20of%20the%20National%20Guard.
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But a 4 year old can choose their gender.
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Just me- i find it troublesome that many continue to enable and make excuses for many that need to be in a mental health facility, or in jail or prison, or that need to be executed and planted. The processes and institutions for dealing with those that shouldn't be running around loose have been created and refined for years and years, but it's objectionable to admit that our offspring or friends or relatives are unhinged and need confinement of one kind or another for the protection and safety of innocent bystanders
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I think the idea that a 17 year old girl can't purchase the means to defend herself is not only absurd, but criminal. Absolutely! A lot of younger girls (edit: and boys) being preyed upon by pedophiles, too. A loud last surprise would solve some problems.
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Is there a statistic out for how many 16 year old girls commit mass murder on a regular basis? Yeah, I'm betting that's a flatliner without a bubble to be seen anywhere, now matter what timeline you dream up. Google Brenda Spencer "I don't like Monday's". Not trying to be a jerk...just bringing this forgotten crime up.
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