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Any of you own a high condition 1899F (SRC)? If so can you post some decent pictures? Heck, even if you don't own it but have some good pictures of one, can you post some?
How often do high option or fancy ones come around?
Mine are all in definitely used condition, and I don't recall seeing any really nice ones. My assumption is that if someone bought one new it was probably to actually use on a horse.
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SRC's are not common. Particularly in the Winchester calibers. And yes, some were road pretty hard. A work'in man's gun. With a horse! Options or fancy? Uncommon squared. Likely existing only in private collections. Sweet rifles. This .303 and all of my .303's feel dreamy. Note the dovetail placement. #69xxx & 136xxx 30-30 .303
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I've got a 25-35, a 303 and a 30-30. They handle really well and I'm always on the lookout for more. But I don't recall seeing one that obviously hadn't been carried in a scabbard most of its life.
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Ones with special order features are extremely uncommon. Fug has a few REALLY good ones. I saw a pretty high condition pistol grip 1899F in the Springfield Bass Pro NRA museum and just about cried to see it just tucked away in a display like it was nothing special. High condition ones are out there, but are mostly hiding in collections since they are so uncommon. You might find some nice ones in my Fest slideshows. The downside (upside?) is you'll have to look at a lot of other 99's while searching. https://savagelevers.com/2014-savage-fest-slideshow/https://savagelevers.com/2018-savage-fest-slideshow/
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I haver only 2 SRC's. One is at the top of this picture along, it is in 30-30 Win, with the 1950's F's that i have managed to accumulate. I also have a "decent" 1895 SRC
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Passed on a .25-35 Win. SRC with extra holes at the Bloomsburg Show a while ago
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I haver only 2 SRC's. One is at the top of this picture along, it is in 30-30 Win, with the 1950's F's that i have managed to accumulate. I also have a "decent" 1895 SRC The one in the picture with the 99Fs is the nicest one I have seen.
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There are pics of my late 303 in Figures 3-1 and 3-4 in my book. I also have a really nice one in 32-40. Will get some pics of them later.
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Wow, one in 32-40. Can't be many of those floating around.
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I haver only 2 SRC's. One is at the top of this picture along, it is in 30-30 Win, with the 1950's F's that i have managed to accumulate. I also have a "decent" 1895 SRC The one in the picture with the 99Fs is the nicest one I have seen. I haver only 2 SRC's. One is at the top of this picture along, it is in 30-30 Win, with the 1950's F's that i have managed to accumulate. I also have a "decent" 1895 SRC The one in the picture with the 99Fs is the nicest one I have seen. Well, Thank you.
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What caliber is the second from the top?
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If you are referring to my picture, it is in .300 Savage. I also have another checkered F in 30-30 Win.
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Damnesia, some have been preserved in excellent condition. Here are some pics of two. The top one is 32-40. The high gloss blue on the receiver doesn't photograph well but it is about 90% there. The lower one is in 303. The serial number places it as produced in 1917. However, it letters as shipped in 1919. It has the duller blued receiver which is characteristic of post WWI 1899's. So it was finished when Savage went back into civilian production after the war. The 303 is what really got me collecting Savages. It was at a gun show in Rock Springs. I told the seller I thought the saddle ring had been added. He said no and showed me a pic of the 1899F in Murray's. I bought the carbine but he wouldn't sell me his copy of Murray's. I hadn't seen Murray's book before but found him on the internet and got a signed copy. That really got me going on acquiring 99's. The 32-40's serial # is 972XX making it an early rifle with the curved rear bolt surface. The 303's serial # is 1923xx. Although 1919 was probably the last year of 1899F production we have seen quite a few with higher serial numbers. They were still probably left over pre-war receivers. Yep, should have been 1899F. Old age is getting the best of me. Will be 77 in a couple of weeks. I'll use the excuse I tend to call them carbines or SRC's.
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I think you mean 1899-F as in SRC vs feather weight.
Note the difference in rear sights on the two SRC's. The older one has the dovetail close to the receiver with a carbine ladder sight. The post war SRC has the dovetail in the standard rifle location with a #15 WG sight.
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I fixed that H and F problem with an edit.
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I haver only 2 SRC's. a "decent" 1895 SRC The only other one of these I ever saw was on John Wright's table, which he graciously let me pick up and look at more closely. Very "decent"!!, of You to share it here LBK
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Here's one I worked on all winter off and on. The backsight main cross pin is seized and the side elevation wheel shaft is bent and won't turn a full 360' . I think it's safe to shoot but some one put a pipe wrench on it and failed to remove the barrel. The teeth depth may not be any deeper than the diameter of a lighter contour barrel at the same location which I assume would be smaller but since all mine are 1899 303 Savage I don't have any to compare and measure for comparison. The gun took a teaspoon of gravel from cleaning and needed a new staple , magazine main axle , new backsight, new firing pin cross screw near the back of the bolt , and stock work. All that's left is to make a saddle ring for it. I've probably got it thumpin' again.
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The No 21B sight was probably the very worst choice for use on a gun intended for rough use. These are usually found with the windage screw bent at least a little, as well as other problems, they are also known for broken elevation springs which has been covered a few times. I have straighten the windage screws but if it's set I would say leave it, they tend to get a little loose after straightening. The No 21B first shows up as replacement for the No 11 as standard on the carbines in the 1903 catalog, the No 11 no longer being listed. The No 11 was a robust ladder style carbine sight as used by Winchester, Marlin and others and was probably from a third party source. The top one of David's has the No 11 type sight. The No 21B was designed & patented by Arthur W. and assigned to Savage Arms. The patent was applied for Nov 25, 1904 just a couple months before Arthur Savage was ousted from the company, his last patented design for the company, and issued May 16, 1905. The No 21 sight is still shown on the SRC in catalog No 50 from about 1912 but catalog No 55 from about 1914 lists the No 15WG sight for the SRC's (the bottom one of David's). The No 21B was also standard on the Model 1905 single shot and an option on the other Models of 22's, that was also changed in catalog No 55 with it being replaced with the new windage adjustable design No 25B. The No 21b was still listed in No 55 & No 57 but was no longer a standard on anything and was not listed in catalog No 60 from about 1916. There are several variations of the No 21 with a buckhorn version and screw adjustments instead of knobs.
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Here's one I worked on all winter off and on. The backsight main cross pin is seized and the side elevation wheel shaft is bent and won't turn a full 360' . I think it's safe to shoot but some one put a pipe wrench on it and failed to remove the barrel. The teeth depth may not be any deeper than the diameter of a lighter contour barrel at the same location which I assume would be smaller but since all mine are 1899 303 Savage I don't have any to compare and measure for comparison. The gun took a teaspoon of gravel from cleaning and needed a new staple , magazine main axle , new backsight, new firing pin cross screw near the back of the bolt , and stock work. All that's left is to make a saddle ring for it. I've probably got it thumpin' again. Can you share details and pics about the work you did to put a new staple in? I have one that needs a staple.
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What would be going rate for Savage 1899F SRC with 21b sight in 303 savage? A bit better condition than the 303 savage SRC f above? I will get pictures tomorrow.
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