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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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But my post also isn't about what I want or fear, it's just asking a rhetorical question of what if there's no saving grace like some believe.

Fair enough...

WHAT??? ...Will that "Saving Grave" be?

ANYONE is welcome to answer that question... really really.
I guess the question is more geared towards those that believe either God or Trump will fix this mess and I'm asking what if he/they dont?

What kind of answer do you expect to get to a question like that?

If it all boils down it all boils down. That's all. Enjoy the sun on your face until it does.
An honest one. Asking for those that perhaps haven't thought of alternative scenarios.


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Fight on all fronts like your life depends on it. It does, as you know it. This includes voting.

Demoralizing your your brothers in arms is the way of worthless f'cks.


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Originally Posted by BeardedGunsmith
Asking for those that perhaps haven't thought of alternative scenarios.

Whatever it turns out to be, there is no alternative scenario.

Everything is etched in stone for eternity.

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The US is lost when "integrity" no longer matters.


Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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That'a Boy... "Fight The Good Fight"... Show em who's Boss...

There is no "firearms friendly" country outside the US you twat.
Well then the data i researched is FOS... Hunting rifles, Shotguns, Rimfires and some hand guns are a go... I think military style semi auto center fires are a no go... So maybe my Mini-14 has to stay behind?..

Geeze...how generous of them.

By all means...flee to a more restrictive socialist country.

Probably Argentina of all things...
Actually a Country near Argentina... By the way JC, My "Good Fight" post was directed toward Gandolfini...

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My own mother believes the Q stuff. I asked her what if she's wrong and if she's thought of what she'd do if none of that happened and there was no "ultimate plan?" She said that she didn't even want to think about that because that would be terrifying.

Well, I'm sure your Mom was there for you when you were little and vulnerable, one reason Mom's are special.

So........ I'm sure you will be there for her if and when the time comes. Right? RIGHT???

I hope that isn't some sort of struggle for you.
Of course I always do all I can to help out my mother and ease what burdens I can. I guess my question towards her was asking how it would effect her mindset if she's wrong because she seems to think it'll all work out fine. I think people should be prepared for when/if schitt goes south.

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Haha!

Who the hell is Gandolfini?

At any rate....there is no other place for Americans than America.


I feel sorry for other that could leave.


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Originally Posted by BeardedGunsmith
An honest one. Asking for those that perhaps haven't thought of alternative scenarios.

I respect that...

What "alternative scenario" is best sought?

What "alternative scenario" is most appropriate for a nation that has tossed her soul in the waste bin?

I am NOT being obtuse here... I am re-asking your question for the whole of the Campfire...

What will save America from this implosion?


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Tony Soprano ring a Bell...

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Fight on all fronts like your life depends on it. It does, as you know it. This includes voting.

Demoralizing your your brothers in arms is the way of worthless f'cks.
I've yet to see anyone in this thread demoralize anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
At any rate....there is no other place for Americans than America.

I feel sorry for others that could leave.

...says the Man from Montana.

And the man from the Virginias...


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by BeardedGunsmith
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Fight on all fronts like your life depends on it. It does, as you know it. This includes voting.

Demoralizing your your brothers in arms is the way of worthless f'cks.
I've yet to see anyone in this thread demoralize anyone else.

Correct Sir!


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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First off, I'm not knocking anyone's beliefs, hopes or dreams but I like to keep a neutral mind when it comes to different and possible outcomes. When it comes to the state of the country, we are split with about half of us extremely unhappy and our own liar in chief just declared Trump voters and supporters as enemies of the state which no potus gas done before. Hell, even Lincoln didn't condemn the confederates after the fact. But my point: many people believe that everything's going to be okay, and some believe that Trump is playing 4D chess and he'll pull us out of the fire either soon or in 2024. My own mother believes the Q stuff. She thinks that the Supreme Court is going to declare Trump as the victor of the last election, reinstate him and the military will be used to restore order. I asked her what if she's wrong and if she's thought of what she'd do if none of that happened and there was no "ultimate plan?" She said that she didn't even want to think about that because that would be terrifying. It made me think that many don't want to consider that we are just screwed because they too don't want to think of how fugged we are. So I ask you that think everything will be okay, What if it's not and there's no saving grace? Then what? I'm not looking to be convinced, I want you to seriously consider this other angle.
But the Liar-in-Chief is no longer in office.

Yeah, the POS BIDET IS DOING AS HE SAID AND BRINGING AMERICA TOGETHER just as he lied and said.

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Leaving the US is prolly just a pipe dream for me... You know what they say, Hope for the best but prepare for the worst!...

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I've also considered what could transpire to "fix" all of this and there's zero scenarios that I can come up with that would do anything positive, short of a true miracle. If the Q thing were to happen and somehow Trump were reinstated (which isn't in the constitution that im aware of) half of the country would flip their schitt and burn down the country. But if Potato head keeps up what he's doing OR if Trump gets arrested and actually charged, there's again going to be half of the country pissed off and people doing crazy schitt which the dems would use to further their agenda anyways. There's just no restoration possible if you think in terms of reality. I've also lost hope in voting our way out since the ballot is likely compromised.

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This will not make me popular here but its not he dems who are the problem until our party can prove that we can make the lives of average people better we will continue to loose. Tax cuts for the rich don't help me out here in rural Ohio. If my grandkids have part of there school debt forgiven it will help me cause there still living here. Just an example can you imagine a black man voting republican? There are 20 million of them. Flint on steel............Klatch

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Here's the future of the USA, they prove daily they don't want to work.
No-one ever seems to tell the cupcakes to shut the hell up and get to work, know why?, >they'll just quit the job. And that seems ok with mom/dad.

Posted this yesterday, watched a couple of others on youtube and did some reading on the topic.

Companies are sending 'Spies' into workplaces who befriend the employees and slowly learn what they are all about. Spy might work in a location for a few weeks, silently slowly interrogating without them knowing.< Usuallly a cute female.
It's worse than employers even thought possible.
The employers are doing their best to keep older employees and even draw retirees out of retirement. Many admit they have given up on the millenials and now Gen.Z age groups.
Gen.Z is 10 - 25 year olds right now.
Here's a good video, notice how the video promotes Gen.Z as being right and just, constantly giving them a little pity-party,, THAT is their whole problem, parents who have treated them like babies, on now they've turned out to be big babies.



PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by BeardedGunsmith
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Fight on all fronts like your life depends on it. It does, as you know it. This includes voting.

Demoralizing your your brothers in arms is the way of worthless f'cks.
I've yet to see anyone in this thread demoralize anyone else.

Good.


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Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
"Prepare to Abandon Ship"... No seriously, Make a plan... Check out other Countries... I have found one that fits my needs... Diverse Climate, low crime, More cattle than people, Good food and Medical care, firearm friendly too...



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First, thank you Bearded Gunsmith for answering my question. A number of different scenarios in there and I think that it would take a combination of many of them, not to mention, foreign developments of which we have no control, to bring about a complete tearing apart of the country.

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CASHis King - "Do you have a vision for America Mr Lean Wolf?"

Nothing concrete. Way too many variables possible in the future. That said, I would hazard a guess that one of the biggest concerns we might have is the rapid, overwhelming advance of technology that is already very, very intrusive in our lives. I believe the technology available today, and continuing to be developed in the future, has the ability to control every moment of our lives, not only from the cradle to the grave but from the Erection to the Resurrection. wink

Unfortunately, just as throughout history, there are people in high places who are obsessed with having that power.

Just my thoughts.

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