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I picked up a 15 lb keg of Green Dot. I have one manual with data for .38 spcl , and 357 mag. Does anyone have data for a mid-range .41 mag ? I have a lot of 215 gr swc
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Without looking at my burn rate sheet, isn't it close to Unique ??
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Thanks for the print out mag410. Between Bullseye and unique I believe
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Green Dot is a little slower than Red Dot, and a little faster than Bullseye.
Fast to slow: Red Dot, Green Dot, Bullseye, Unique.
I used some Green Dot for some 9mm target loads some years back. If I recall correctly, 4.0gr under a 115gr FMJ. Seemed to work well in the Glock 17.
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Green Dot is a little slower than Red Dot, and a little faster than Bullseye.
Fast to slow: #9 Red Dot, #16 Bullseye, #24 Green Dot, #45 Unique.
I used some Green Dot for some 9mm target loads some years back. If I recall correctly, 4.0gr under a 115gr FMJ. Seemed to work well in the Glock 17. Fixed it for you.
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Green Dot is a little slower than Red Dot, and a little faster than Bullseye.
Fast to slow: #9 Red Dot, #16 Bullseye, #24 Green Dot, #45 Unique.
I used some Green Dot for some 9mm target loads some years back. If I recall correctly, 4.0gr under a 115gr FMJ. Seemed to work well in the Glock 17. Fixed it for you. I guess it depends where you look for the info. QuickLOAD suggests the order I listed above. I took a look at data published by Alliant, (page 11 on the link), and it has them listed from fastest to slower as: Bullseye, Red Dot, Green Dot, Unique. https://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/catalog/2017/2017_Alliant_Powder.pdf
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Burning rate is not an absolute.
When used to load 12 gauge shot shells, the order from quicker burning to slower burning is; Bulleseye, Red Dot, Green Dot, Unique.
In the handgun data I posted above, you can see that in some calibers Red Dot makes more pressure than Bullseye with the same amount, and in some cases less, powder.
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When used to load 12 gauge shot shells, the order from quicker burning to slower burning is; Bulleseye, Red Dot, Green Dot, Unique. . This was my understanding of burning rates. Green Dot is an under-appreciated, and overlooked powder for pistol reloading.
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Well if the OP’s Green Dot was made within the last 5 years, none of that data is valid as they reformulated both in 17 or 18 IIRC on the dates. I use the same chart for Red Dot but I picked up 16 pounds back in 05-06. So if it’s old style he should be safe, new style I wouldn’t bet my life on it as Alliant dropped a lot of pistol data do too more recent pressure data.
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. Well if the OP’s Green Dot was made within the last 5 years, none of that data is valid as they reformulated both in 17 or 18 IIRC on the dates. I use the same chart for Red Dot but I picked up 16 pounds back in 05-06. So if it’s old style he should be safe, new style I wouldn’t bet my life on it as Alliant dropped a lot of pistol data do too more recent pressure data. Hercules quit putting powder in 15 lb kegs in the late 1970's. The page I posted is from a 1983 Hercules edition. Alliant listed virtually the same data, just with PSI instead of CUP, until they started pushing their new wonder powders.
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I use Green dot in 12 gauge, 9 mm, 40 sw, 45 acp, 38spcl, 357 mag, and it works very well
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GD was the first powder I purchased to load .38/.357, .44, and .45ACP. That was 1970, and I bought a 16# keg. IIRC it was around $30-$35.......for 16#.
GD burn rate is very close to 231. That's why it works well in so many pistol cartridges.
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How does data for 210-grain bullets in a .41 chambering contribute to this thread?
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It does have a load with Green Dot, if you bother to look down.. 8.6-8.7. Not saying I would use it, but its there.... Green dot is a versatile powder..
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How does data for 210-grain bullets in a .41 chambering contribute to this thread?
. Split the load between 210 and 220 or 8.5 max, but be careful. It does have a load with Green Dot, if you bother to look down.. 8.6-8.7. Not saying I would use it, but its there.... Green dot is a versatile powder.. I wouldn’t do that. I use that chart for Red Dot in 41 mag. 8 grains with a 215 HCSWC gives ~1200 fps, and it’s a handful. As stated before Alliant dropped a lot of those loads, especially in the 41 mag due to updated pressure testing. Even put out a warning not to use Blue Dot in the 41. I would start 7.5 and work up.
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