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Originally Posted by Savageguy
Toyota Tundra they have good low end power, not great on gas mileage but good power.

Uh where you been?? Toyota dropped the v8


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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You dont want a Ford. My kid turns wrenches at a Ford shop. Says he'll never own one. He's currently shopping for a Toyota Tundra.


Well if all he works on is Fords, what did you expect him to say? It's not like people drop off their perfectly reliable cars and trucks just for the hell of it. Toyota dealers are full of Toyotas in for repair, same as ram, GM, Nissan, Honda etc.

This. I mean for all we know he works at a Ford shop but's only getting 30 hours a week - not enough work. Going to a GM dealer - 70 hours and mandatory OT.


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Originally Posted by WTF
You dont want a Ford. My kid turns wrenches at a Ford shop. Says he'll never own one. He's currently shopping for a Toyota Tundra.

That’s funny my buddy is a mechanic at the Toyota dealer and told us stay away from the new tundras.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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I just sold my v8 F150, a really great truck, averaged 14 mpg in town, 16 on the highway. Was going to buy a new F150 but was offered a great family deal on a 2020 Chevy. I did test drive a new Tundra and it was nice, reminded me more of a mimi van on the inside and very modern lines on the outside. I would have bought one if they had a more affordable one on the lot, all they had were high end packages and they were more expensive than the new F150s. I still like the Ford the best as far as looks and drivers seat perspective but I really like this Chevy, LT, leather and the 2.7 turbo 4 cylinder gets 20 in town and my best so far 25 on the highway. I think it's rated at 300+ HP. I am particularly happy with the MPG these days.

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Whatever you do, do NOT buy a Ram 1500 with the 6cyl if you plan on taking it off-road anywhere.

My work truck (45,000mi) is one, a co-worker has another one (62,000mi), and between us, the company has spent over $10K having wiring harnesses replaced in just the past 12 months. Both of us had wiring harnesses replaced under warranty before they expired.

They will not handle vibration from running gravel roads and the POS transmissions they put in them are worthless for getting said POS truck out of deep sand. Just when you reach the top of the peak torque curve (roughly 4500rpm) to pull the pig out, it will upshift, killing what little torque was available.

Seem most recent "pickups" are designed by lawyers and built for city girls. Not a "work truck" to be found.

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I would probably stay away from anything with a turbo or MDS, that pretty much leaves the F150 with 5.0 V8. Or get an extended warranty and sell it when it expires.


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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
I would probably stay away from anything with a turbo or MDS, that pretty much leaves the F150 with 5.0 V8. Or get an extended warranty and sell it when it expires.
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My 3.5 ecoboost pulls an enclosed trailer like it isn't even there. I've never been in a 1/2 ton that pulls a trailer like it does.

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No, you don’t have to rev them up a lot. Their torque is located in low rpm’s like a diesel. No, it’s not better than a diesel. They suck on mpgs towing. I’m speaking on the Ford 3.5 TT


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If you're not beating on it around a farm, it's hard to beat a 1/2 ton Chevy with a 5.3. Motors are indestructable.
Get the chip that disables the cylander deactivation and motor shutoff at stops. I like reliable.
It's already been deleted on the V-8 powered Silverados. My '22 6.2L doesn't have it.

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Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
1/2 ton would be something GM with a 5.3 for me.

YMMV

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I've got a 2018 Tundra with the 5.7 V8. Just turned 101000 miles with no trouble. Looked at the 2023 but wouldn't get one with the V6 and turbos. When/if this one craps out, I may try a rebuilt 5.7 engine. I'm 72 now. If I can get four or five more years out of it I would probably buy a used 2022 or earlier Tundra. I would not buy anything with a V6 or turbo.

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Originally Posted by centershot
About time for a new truck. Things have changed in the last few years since I have been in the market. Seems like a large crop of turbo 6 cylinders taking over for smallish v8's. How are they working out? Enough power to pull a small camp trailer? or do you have to rev them to 5,000rpm to get any power? Which one is your pick and why? I really have no loyalty to any of them and probably prefer Toyota or Nissan to the domestics due to quality issues.

The turbos are so you don't have to rev them to 5,000 rpm to make power. How heavy is your trailer? I pull a 4500 pound boat all over the damn place with a ford f-150, 2.7l eco-boost with 150k miles. Runs like a champ. Rides a ton better than a Toyota, has way less road noise that a toyota and isn't $90k to bring home.


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I don’t own either- but I asked an independent mechanic if I should be looking for a f150 with the eco boost or 5.0. He said the ecoboosts are good and has worked on em, then that he’s never had to work on a 5.0…. Which spoke volumes to me.

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Anything but a RAM. Tundra for me, but not the new one til it’s been out a few years.



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Originally Posted by cruzerbotz
I've got a 2018 Tundra with the 5.7 V8. Just turned 101000 miles with no trouble. Looked at the 2023 but wouldn't get one with the V6 and turbos. When/if this one craps out, I may try a rebuilt 5.7 engine. I'm 72 now. If I can get four or five more years out of it I would probably buy a used 2022 or earlier Tundra. I would not buy anything with a V6 or turbo.
That truck will outlast you.


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I had a Toyota SALESMAN tell me to hold off on the V-6 Tundras, until they get the bugs worked out. When a salesman who sells Toyotas for a living tells me that, I listen.

I'm in the market for a new pickup, too, but so far, I haven't seen anything l like better than the 2016 Frontier I've driving now, AND, it's paid for, and has nothing seriously wrong with it. I'm doing the brakes in a couple of weeks, but that's just normal stuff. It's been a really great little pickup, perfect for my own needs. I don't tow or haul anything but my shooting gear and hunting stuff, anyway.
The way it's looking now, I'll probably buy an SUV, as I don't hunt much any more.


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Turbocharged gas engines have a long history of a short lifespan. The turbos in gas motors are death on oil. Take the manufacturers "suggested" oil change intervals and divide by 2.........

Plus this is still a terrible time to buy a vehicle.

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My last two trucks were Ford F-150's 4 doors. The 2014 3.5 EcoBoost was a good truck with minor issues, gas mileage sucked. My 2018 2.7 EcoBoost has been very good, 120K miles in 3 1/2 years (bought as a leftover), I could get 22.5 MPG if I drove 65. Before that I had a 5.7 Tundra, 161K of trouble free miles.

I just saw an article that the 2021 GM's are having big problems and that sucks because I wanted to buy a GMC.

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