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Unique and bullseye appear to have vanished, I'm loading for 45 acp, 45 Colt. Any suggestions?
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I have switched to BE-86 from both Unique and Universal.
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If I had to quit using Bullseye for my 45 acp's, I would use WST. Phil
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I’ve used titegroup and 231/hp38. My buddy used red dot for 9mm to 44/45.
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I have switched to BE-86 from both Unique and Universal. BE-86 is good stuff. Haven't used it in 45 ACP, but it shoots well in my 45 Colt and 32 H&R Mag. It's been pretty readily available, too. Get similar velocities to Unique, but it seems a little cleaner. As to the OP, Midway and PV have both had Bullseye and Unique in stock fairly recently. Alliant powders in general sell out really fast, though. Not sure if that is from the supply side, demand side, or a combination of both. I've become very fond of CFE Pistol over this past year. It's shot very well with just about every bullet/cartridge combination I've tried it with, it burns really clean, and it's relatively cheap by today's standards. An 8 pounder will set you back $200-ish. It's also pretty much constantly in stock at most online stores these days.
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Look at a powder burn rate chart. Neighbors on the chart work similar. Hasbeen
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Red Dot, HP38, Clays, as substitutes for Bullseye; Universal Clays in lieu of Unique. I use them all as well as B'eye & Unique, almost interchangeably.
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Is BE-86 as versatile as Unique? How about Universal Clays?
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BE-86... probably not. It's a little slower and more dense than Unique. It looks very similar to Power Pistol.
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I do think that Unique is probably the most universal powder around with Universal right on its heels. I have used Unique and Universal in my 45-70 as well as the pistol calibers that I load for. I have not done much with BE-86 but have read that those who have used it for 45 Colt, 45 ACP and 44 Mag do like it. My son shoots 45 ACP and I shoot milder than mid range 44 mag loads using BE-86. I'm happy.
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If I had to quit using Bullseye for my 45 acp's, I would use WST. Phil Yes! I shoot 200 grain cast match profile bullets with WST and it works just fine. BE-86 was tried and I don’t have a single pistol that likes it. My 10 mm Delta Elite loves Longshot in every bullet type FWIW.
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.45 Colt try Universal. .45 ACP go with CFE Pistol. Both are pretty easy to find now.
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CFE Pistol. I use it for 45 ACP, 9mm & 10mm
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Red Dot is great target load powder in the .45 Colt.
For full house loads, I’d look elsewhere.
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Herco works about anywhere Unique will........sometimes you run across an odd lb or 2
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Universal Clays in lieu of Unique. In the name of safety, there is no such thing as “Universal Clays” today. Hodgdon did bring the propellant out in 1992 under that name, but wide confusion among reloaders prompted them to rename it “Universal”. Too many reloaders were confusing data for Clays with Universal Clays - the results were not pretty since in many cartridges a starting load with Universal is an overload with Clays (see .38 Special data below). Never underestimate the carelessness or ignorance of some reloaders. Hodgdon was wise to rename it decades ago, making the old name obsolete. Universal is an excellent substitute for Unique (hence the similar name) but it is not identical. In some of my .45LC loads they give virtually identical fps/grain, while in the .38-55 Universal is considerably faster.
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I am using a lot of TightGroup these days.
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