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I'm using a vortex and am not overwhelmingly impressed. It seems to do fine out to 400 or so, then after that forget about it.
This will be for hunting. I don't care for a tremendous amount of fancy features. 6x +. Good on animals to 600 yd, rocks/bushes 1K.
What would you recommend?
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For straight up no hassle easy to use, quick, and excellent glass, my vote goes to the Leica 2400. Loving mine. Easily range all kinds of stuff out to 2400 yards. I paid $400 for mine, but that was after receiving in store coupons of $100.00.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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That link is for a rifle scope.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Anything SIG is the easy button and you shouldn’t have to put a ton either.
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That link is for a rifle scope. I am a damn dolt. My mind immediately went to Rear Focal.
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Anything SIG is the easy button and you shouldn’t have to put a ton either. Did you read the other thread regarding poor warranty?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I hunted with a guy that had a Sig 1800 a few years ago. He was ranging all sorts of stuff that I couldn't pick up with my Nikon Rifleman. I bought a Leupold RX1600 after that hunt. It works great in daytime conditions but the red LED reticle on the lowest setting is too bright in low light. Apparently it will get dimmer but then it'll get too dim and I'll need another new unit.
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Anything SIG is the easy button and you shouldn’t have to put a ton either. Did you read the other thread regarding poor warranty? Nah, I sure haven't. But after using Leica for a few years and now a SIG 2400 for a good amount of time, along with my brother and buddies running the 2200's I don't worry too much. I hate electronics stuff, but the RF's are a must have these days. Leica isn't exactly a sterling example of warranty support either, so I take my chances with stuff that works for me.
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In terms of pure RF performance, I've owned a few Sigs and a few Leicas, and the Leicas all have outperformed the Sigs in terms of ranging capability versus rated distances. Even the Bushnell Fusion 1600 I owned outperformed the Sig 2000 and 2200s I've had. I'm underwhelmed by all the Sig RFs I've owned and used, to be honest. I would go Leica.
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Anything SIG is the easy button and you shouldn’t have to put a ton either. Did you read the other thread regarding poor warranty? Nah, I sure haven't. But after using Leica for a few years and now a SIG 2400 for a good amount of time, along with my brother and buddies running the 2200's I don't worry too much. I hate electronics stuff, but the RF's are a must have these days. Leica isn't exactly a sterling example of warranty support either, so I take my chances with stuff that works for me. I based my decision off of other people that have had excellent experiences with Leica and then I reviewed all the competitors. The sig 2200 was awfully close to Leica 2400 I ended up buying, but there were some bad reviews I read on the Sig vs the Leica. The local shop told me today that if anything happens to them, bring them back and they will take care of me. That has also been part of the reason for buying Leica over the competitors. Having just compared my Leica 2400 to a set of Vortex Fury 5000 range finding bino's last week, I also would not go with Vortex. The glass is just not as good, and by a long ways. My new Leica 10x42 Geovids are excellent as well. They range further out than my buddies Vortex Fury 5000's, are easier to use and the glass is much better. I guess call me a Leica fanboy, but I really like the glass quality. Ranging with the 2400 is damn good. I've never used anything quite as fast as the Leica's and they range furry beasts out to what is written on the side of them. Unlike a bunch of others, that have issues in that regard. The Geovids ranged a cow at 1203 today, which I thought was pretty damn good. I'll be putting those to some good use for sure.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I agree on Leica's glass. I don't believe anyone makes better stuff to look through for sure.
I am not doggin Leica's, since I still use my older Leica's for GP stuff. I just got a deal on the Sig 2400's and haven't had an issue with them. Next step for me is RF bino's and chances are, they might be Leica's.
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I agree on Leica's glass. I don't believe anyone makes better stuff to look through for sure.
I am not doggin Leica's, since I still use my older Leica's for GP stuff. I just got a deal on the Sig 2400's and haven't had an issue with them. Next step for me is RF bino's and chances are, they might be Leica's. I was going to ask if you had a set of range finding bino's, but I figured you already had a set. I'll tell you, I got impatient with these Leica's. I looked at them last Friday and they were on clearance here. They are moving them out to make room for a new model. I did some research and I believe the new Geovid 10x42R is going to have a ranging distance of 2,000 yards. The ones I bought today are 1200. I could not pass up the deal on them though, because I saw the same exact model on ebay for $1,400.00 and I got these for $1,199.00. The new Geovids will likely be around $1,500.00+...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I’ve had the Zeiss and Swaro versions and while nice were heavier than I liked.
The Leicas are pretty nice though. I’ll look at them more after the 1st of the year.
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How is the reticle in low light on the Leica and Sig's? It seems like any $300 RF will do a pretty good job in good light.
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What vortex do you have? My brothers ranger 1000 has worked well for us. And the razor 4000 has good reviews. Those would fix the warranty problem.
I now use rangefinding binoculars, but I had Maven RF1 briefly and it was great it also has a good warranty.
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I find the maven intriguing, never used one though.
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Appreciate the responses, fellas. IDMilton, Ireasonable question.. I can't recall at the moment, sorry. It's a lower level unit. This evening it was ranging nicely to 560, which surprised me. Anyway it's time to upgrade
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For straight up no hassle easy to use, quick, and excellent glass, my vote goes to the Leica 2400. Loving mine. Easily range all kinds of stuff out to 2400 yards. I paid $400 for mine, but that was after receiving in store coupons of $100.00. This right here.
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I have a Nikon that must be 12 years old. Maybe more. Still works great. I finally had to change the battery. I use it for archery and flintlock season. Occasionally in rifle season
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