Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles How much damage has the 6.5 Creedmoor done to the 243?

Remington was busy planning their next bankruptcy, and trying to figure out how many corners they could cut to grabble a few more nickels. Cut 'em some slack.

I’ve shot 10-12 blacktails with 6.5cm 6cm and 243 all with factory ammo. I will say favorite is the 6cm with factory 108eldm. There is less drop then the 6.5 and still plenty of killing power out to 5-600yards. Less recoil makes spotting shots super easy. If I was only shooting deer/hogs under 500yds and I had to pick one caliber I’d be a 6cm in a 7-8lb rifle.

The 243 sticks around because it’s a kimber super America and I love looking at it when hunting, but for rifle bought to just to kill animals, I wouldn’t pick it if had the choice.

Deer can’t tell the difference. Not sure shooters can either.

Comparing Creed and Swede. I have both, each with Shilen barrel, set up pretty similar. Both are sub MOA, the Creed grouping more different loads than the Swede. Creed is less finicky than the Swede, hard to find a load Creed won’t shoot pretty well. Swede likes what it likes, not so much what it doesn’t.

I think another way the Creed shines is twist. Someone mentioned a fast twist .243. Unfortunately they don’t come that way out of the box.

DF

Fair assessment by both posters but if Hornady ever gets bought out by a bunch of anti-gun corporate raiders like Remington did they won't fair any better. Hornady's biggest problem is their marketing fugs and bean counters who get rid of proven bullet lines like the SP flatbase for un proven crap like SST's all to chase some of noslers market share. Fugging dicks...mb

The 129 interbond factory load was great in the 6.5cm... so naturally Hornady discontinued it 😂😇

Question, where is this coming from? They are still showing the SP flatbases on their website.

They have discontinued several of them.

Examples: 6mm 100 grain, .257" 100 grain

I also believe the .308" 165 was out for a while, but it came back. I haven't been able to get the newer version to shoot as well as the old production.

Is this coming from Hornady, or because of recent component availability?

They dropped the those I mentioned a while back, pre-Brandon.

I also don't like the more blunt profile of the newer version SP innerlocs. Both 150 and 165.

Me neither, flat base and boat tail version too.

I have the 150 working well enough to do for my deer/pig killing though. Tomorrow morning I'll be in the field with my 700 Classic in 300 Savage.

If I think I need more than a .243, I go to one of my 300wm. The gun writers did a great job selling the 6.5 CM as a long range cartridge to the average hunter who's not capable of long range shooting.

People attempting things beyond their capabilities isn't new.

That's every industry now.
People used to specialize, and were
the best or at least top tier at what they
do. Now the business degree people have
invaded every industry, and their schooling
tells them that if so-and-so over there is
selling to this-and-that customer base, we
should be able to do that thing too, and
have those customers for ourselves.
Never mind that your business was at the
top of the game, and the employees were
some of the best and the brightest at what
they did for years. Everybody has the
McDonald's menu syndrome now. Cover
every base. Some of it may be half a$$ed,
but by God we covered the bases

Hornady can't keep up with the demand for their bullets.

They make what is most popular as any smart buisness should to keep as many customers happy as possible.

That doesn't sound like smart business.

What he should have said is that they can't keep up with current demand of some of their bullets.

They are still practicing smart business by ramping up production of those bullets in demand, at the expense of the less desirable bullets rather than invest a bunch of money into capital assets that will sit idle as soon as the demand goes down.

How do you suggest they improve their business model Paul?

Hornady has a growth plan that is pretty agressive but demand for their product keeps exceeding production.

The production has increased by a lot but demand keeps getting ahead.

Bullet presses are not cheap or easy to purchase.