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Agreed, though the 155s are fairly comfortable when shot from a relatively weighty 4006. I’ve clocked the 155 Silver Tips at 1200 from the 4” barrel:



When shot from the lightweight Kahr P40, on the other hand, the 155s can truly be a handful:


Following this target, as I recall, I wasn’t much interested in doing another real soon.

I’ve still got their books, and spoke with Evan Marshall about them on a couple occasions at SHOT Shows.

Still the illage idiot. Buford job was test the ammo and tracking in field results

And you are his bitch?
Let him defend himself. Your sideline cheering adds no value.

You think your moronic posts do. Idiot

Yet another otherwise interesting thread cluttered up with obnoxious insult exchanges.

I agree with the first sentence in the quote, above. I was just pointing out an extreme example when I posted.

Sentence two, with respect to rate of twist (not direction) I've seen it. I don't have test results as they are all back at my old place of employment - I retired in 2012.

The testing was under controlled conditions.

I have 500 of the Nosler 135gr HP’s.
Gonna load them all up with 7.5gr of WSF, and we will see how they shoot. I imagine they will remind me of shooting a 357.
Have 500 of the Nosler 150’s too. Those will be next followed by 180’s, both powder coated cast and XTP’s.

I have a Kahr CW40, basically the same pistol, and yes. it is a bit much if I want quick recovery, although accuracy is very acceptable. I'm not sure the CW40 frame was originally designed for the .40, and especially sceptical about it being for the hotter 155gr. loads. I have decided to use only 180s in it.

The H&K USP and Compact were designed for the .40, then adapted for the 9mm, therefore an acceptably stout design. There is not nearly as much."snap" in it with 155gr. loads. I really like my compact with the 155s.

I've been using a S&W M&P .40 Shield; it's still snappy, but slightly different grip design makes it much better than the Kahr, and S&W says it's designed, not adapted, for the .40. I find it controllable with the 155 gr. loads, though understand YMMV.

I have two 40 Smith and Wesson's. They are nice.

I just ordered 1,000 rounds of PMC 165 gr FMJ. I'm going to give my police trade in Glock 22 a little workout, and see if I can get comfortable with the snappiness. Might try the medium backstrap insert, rather than shooting it without a backstrap insert, and see if that helps any.

No you don’t

180s to me are more pleasant to shoot.

I once tried Speer 180 GDHP “Short Barrel” rounds in my Kahr P40. They were so unpleasant, most of the 20 round box has remained unfired on the shelf for the last couple years. So, I’ve been using the standard 165 GDHPs in my P40, which seems to me just about right, though certainly not for plinking.

Well, the 180s are certainly pleasant to shoot outa this guy:

Agreed. The HK USP Expert is my favorite.

I don't doubt it. I remember back when I was carrying my three inch S&W Model 13, and I was shooting Magnums at the range with it, I noticed that the 158 grain loads were much more pleasant to shoot than the 125 grain loads.

What is that thing?

I THINK it's an early Performance Center 4006, with a 5" barrel/slide combo. Back when the Performance Center actually built custom guns. I got to shoot one they built for Tom Campbell when he was on their shooting team (around 1990), and it was a helluva pistol.