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As the title states. I'm considering getting one of these scopes. Which one would you recommend and why? Specifically comparing the 3-12x56 V4 to a 2.5-10X56 Credo or Credo HX. Most important thing for me will be low light visibility. Thanks

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I am jumping on this one. I am looking at similar for my ML right now and the Credo was pretty close to meeting all of the pre req's. I don't know that I am going 56, but I am not opposed to a 50mm..


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The Credo is far more robust. It would be my choice by a wide margin. Either will give you more low light capabilities than you’ll even need.

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I have the credo hx you're considering, but the most recent zeiss scope in my lineup is a 1" tube 4.5x14x44 conquest.........so the feedback youll be getting should be interesting......

If im not mistaken the zeiss you mention should run $1000........i paid $650 for my credo 9 months ago.

I would imagine the low-light edge may be a slight lean to the zeiss.......my older conquest (2009) with the 44mm objective isnt far behind the newer trijicon.....if my zeiss were a 50mm.....who knows.

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I have the credo hx you're considering, but the most recent zeiss scope in my lineup is a 1" tube 4.5x14x44 conquest.........so the feedback youll be getting should be interesting......

If im not mistaken the zeiss you mention should run $1000........i paid $650 for my credo 9 months ago.

I would imagine the low-light edge may be a slight lean to the zeiss.......my older conquest (2009) with the 44mm objective isnt far behind the newer trijicon.....if my zeiss were a 50mm.....who knows.

The V4 can be had in form of a demo for around $750 plus tax/shipping so less than $100 more than the close out prices I'm seeing online on the Credo HX. Might I add I do not "need" the illumination.

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I really like my old meopta-conquest conquest.

If the V4 is a significant glass upgrade, it will be tough to beat. The credos are tanks.....ld guess maybe heavier as well.

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Then again, a few weeks ago europtic had a mrad version of the credo hx 2.5x10 56mm for $520....

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Have the Credo 2.5x10x56. Glass is superbly clear, better than my Leupold VX6. I have the green illuminated reticle but would go with the red if I had to do it again as the green blends in a little. I bought mine at Europtic for $550 or so. I think it’s impossible to get a better scope for the money. It tracks very well. I’m probably going to buy more.

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Have the Credo 2.5x10x56. Glass is superbly clear, better than my Leupold VX6. I have the green illuminated reticle but would go with the red if I had to do it again as the green blends in a little. I bought mine at Europtic for $550 or so. I think it’s impossible to get a better scope for the money. It tracks very well. I’m probably going to buy more.

Good scoop! Thank you.


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I have a Zeiss V4 4-16x50 on my 300PRC. I'm glad I bought it as an open box demo because at full retail of $1k+, I feel there are better options. To my eyes, the Zeiss is a bit more clear, but the Credo is better on color. If eurooptics is still closing out the Credo, I'd jump on one and fast! Both track well and will not disappoint.


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I have the Credo and it’s a beauty, and also a load at 25oz. Mine’s relegated to “special duty” for that reason as I don’t want to tote it around all the time. The center is very fine if that’s a concern or maybe a want.

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It looks like the Credo is the newer version of the Accupower. If this is correct, I contacted trijicon long ago about the accupower and was told its the same glass thats in the more expensive accupoint, just battery powered.

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You guys who keep talking about glass qualities are missing the point. There is so much more to a rifle scope! And between these two the glass differences are moot. Yet one of the scopes being discussed here is factory drop tested and known to be reliable. The other one is not. So what good is glass if the scope isn’t reliable to begin with?

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Originally Posted by SDHNTR
You guys who keep talking about glass qualities are missing the point. There is so much more to a rifle scope! And between these two the glass differences are moot. Yet one of the scopes being discussed here is factory drop tested and known to be reliable. The other one is not. So what good is glass if the scope isn’t reliable to begin with?

Yep.

However, in this case it's a mute point. The Trijicon (drop test proven) also has the better glass. Easy choice here.

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IMO argument as to which is better is a moot point. They're both made by LOW in Japan and very similar in quality. Best price trumps all else....

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I’m a huge fan of what LOW makes, but I think it’s a mistake to assume that all optics made by them are equal. They are made to the specs of the entity ordering them. If the specs are different, price may mean less.

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Exactly
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I’m a huge fan of what LOW makes, but I think it’s assume that all optics made by them are equal. They are made to the specs of the entity ordering them. If the specs are different, price may mean less.
Exactly. LOW builds to a standard. The standards are not the same. Not even close.

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Originally Posted by Ghostman
IMO argument as to which is better is a moot point. They're both made by LOW in Japan and very similar in quality. Best price trumps all else....
Nope, this is an incorrect assumption.

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To me, glass does matter if you’re trying to squeeze the last few minutes out of a hunt. I’m may be in the minority but I don’t have to have a sub-MOA rifle that can dial precise shots to 500+ yards. I hunted for many years with BAR that was a 3” gun on its best day and killed piles of deer with it. I do need a scope that I can get on target at 100 yards in the last minutes of light in dark timber though.

Credo beats out the VX6 in the glass department? Will have to try one if that’s the case.


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I own both of the scopes mentioned. Both illuminated. I hunt with both. I really like both scopes.

The Trijicon is a great scope. But the Zeiss V4 is better in low light than the Credo.

I’ve never dropped either of them and hope I don’t.
So, I can’t report on that aspect of durability.

That’s just my experience. Thought I’d share.

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