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I’ve kicked the idea of getting a 50-110 around for a few years. I’m looking for recommendations, other than Turnbull, who can do a Model 71 conversion to 50-110. I appreciate all advice and opinions.
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You might check with Tyler Gun Works. I don’t know if he would do that but he does work on lever guns and his work is excellent.
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When I was a kid, I read a fiction novel where this gun played a big role in the book…..I’ve always been intrigued by them!
Good luck in your venture……I wish you great success! memtb
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I’ll try them, thank you.
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I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I appreciate the advice, although it appears that the gunsmith list from Leverguns is outdated, as I’ve been unable to make contact with the listed smiths. I will try my luck at getting in touch with Taylor. Thank you for the information.
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To all-- So far, This post reminds me of a couple others in the recent past.
I went through all the calibers from .45-90 on up and chose the .45-90 for two reasons: The 1886 45-90 is still available from Winchester and many of the larger lever calibers are rare and hard to find. And there is little performance to be gained with a larger caliber over the .45-90.
My 1886 45-90 has performed well in Africa and America so there seems to be no practical advantage to a larger caliber.
Plus, the 45-90 also shoots the 45-70 well!
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To all-- So far, This post reminds me of a couple others in the recent past.
I went through all the calibers from .45-90 on up and chose the .45-90 for two reasons: The 1886 45-90 is still available from Winchester and many of the larger lever calibers are rare and hard to find. And there is little performance to be gained with a larger caliber over the .45-90.
My 1886 45-90 has performed well in Africa and America so there seems to be no practical advantage to a larger caliber.
Plus, the 45-90 also shoots the 45-70 well! All……Very valid points! However, the paths of want and practical seldom intersect…..at least among shooters! 😁 memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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Absolutely legitimate take. I’ve read some of your posts concerning the 45-90 and I am intrigued. If it continues to be difficult finding a reputable gunsmith, I will take a more serious look into the 45-90.
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I need to shoot my 45-90 more! I’ve been wanting to use it on something like a bison or Water Buffalo.
I’d like to convert a 43 Spanish to 50-348 or maybe a 50-110.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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If you do not mind me asking What is the issue with not wanting a Turnbull Rifle.
I purchased a 45 90 from them and it has got to be the finest Mechanically feeling Firearm I own.
I have Marlins and Henrys in Lever guns and I have other types of Semi Auto's
I have a 70'S Wheatherby 30 06 Bolt Gun.
None of them feel the way that my Turnbull does when you cycle a round.
It may just be me but Turnbull is the tightest and smoothest Cycling Firearm I own.
I am very happy with spending the money on it and wish that I could afford another one.
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If you do not mind me asking What is the issue with not wanting a Turnbull Rifle." Nothing against Turnbull. Especially the ones based on a Winchester rifle. BUT, most of my rifles are well made, no frills hunting rifles that see some rough treatment and show it over time. That is not the way I treat my nicer /fancy firearms. My Parker shotguns for example all look new even though they have been out of production for some time-- ,
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If you do not mind me asking What is the issue with not wanting a Turnbull Rifle." Nothing against Turnbull. Especially the ones based on a Winchester rifle. BUT, most of my rifles are well made, no frills hunting rifles that see some rough treatment and show it over time. That is not the way I treat my nicer /fancy firearms. My Parker shotguns for example all look new even though they have been out of production for some time-- , Very Nice. I try and keep my Firearms in good shape. My dad gave me his Kit Gun 30 06 that he hunted with. If I remember right it was a Smith Corona A101 It was in real need of some attention. I rubbed in about 20 coats of Tongue Oil on it before it stopped drinking the stuff and about 2 hours scrubbing the Barrel. When my dad came back for a visit. I handed him his rifle and he told me that it was a Beautiful Rifle. Where did I get it? I told him that it was his Rifle. The one he gave me and he did not believe that it was his Rifle. It looked as if it was just purchased from a dealer. The Rifle was not Valuable money wise but it was purchased by an Uncle for the build. He traded it to my Dad to finish the build. My brother Carved part of the Stock. I gave it some very valuable attention and now my Bothers Daughters Husband has it. It went to him at my dads request before he passed that when I passed on it would to them. After he passed on I thought it was the right time to hand it up to the next generation. The Kid had to barrow a Rifle to go hunting with his family and now he has his own.
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I'm trying to find the original pressure limit on the 50-110. Maybe it was never set by SAAMI??
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I'm trying to find the original pressure limit on the 50-110. Maybe it was never set by SAAMI?? Long obsolete by the time SAAMI came around. Same thing with the .219 Zipper. It came out in 1937 and has never had an official pressure spec. I have an 1886 Browning repro converted to 50-110 WCF and I have used Hodgdon .50 Alaskan data as my guideline for pressure and velocity. They keep the pressure around 35,000 CUP which seems reasonable considering the case head size and the corresponding case head thrust. There's a lot of area on that head to push on back on.
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Last edited by Bearskinner; 01/14/23. Reason: Add pics
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Very nice work, done quickly, at a great price.
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It is possible to convert a Marlin 1895 to 50-90, with a lighter bullet it can hold 110gn of black powder. The bolt face needs to be cut back and the lever arm modified, iirc.
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