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Trust the efile, hasn't worked yet. What a government joke. Our government is broke with no end in sight


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This is a test. A test of compliance.


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Originally Posted by Armednfree
This is a test. A test of compliance.

More of an IQ test if ya ask me...

Watching monkeys dance... over stupid wordsmith... written by a moron.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by kingston
The 120 day clock hasn't started. Yet, these people lining up to comply early, as the rule hasn't published, are not helping the cause. When the Government is forced to defend this rule, the level of early compliance will surely be used as evidence of community support.

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I talked to a couple LEO buddies... There are calling it a trap (personal opinion they hold). and will NOT be submitting the permission slip applications.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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So the feds want a volunteer self registration? While your there, get your boosters.

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Originally Posted by Redneck
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This is probably going to die as its convoluted.

Page 2 "the definition of “rifle” shall include a weapon that is equipped with an accessory, component, or other rearward attachment (e.g., a “stabilizing brace”) that provides surface area that allows the weapon to be fired from the shoulder".

However I have yet to find where it actually defines the amount of surface area that qualifies or disqualifies as being a shoulder mounted weapon.
I will keep looking.

It's defined as any amount. See p. 270 that I copied above. Even a bare buffer tube of any length =SBR.
I don't think that's correct... Other attorneys have pointed out that a simple removal of any brace would NOT then still be classified as a SBR..

But in any case, my bet is it'll be litigated out of existence..

Does the end of that buffer tube have "surface area"?


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Congress makes law, not FedGov agencies.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Redneck
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This is probably going to die as its convoluted.

Page 2 "the definition of “rifle” shall include a weapon that is equipped with an accessory, component, or other rearward attachment (e.g., a “stabilizing brace”) that provides surface area that allows the weapon to be fired from the shoulder".

However I have yet to find where it actually defines the amount of surface area that qualifies or disqualifies as being a shoulder mounted weapon.
I will keep looking.

It's defined as any amount. See p. 270 that I copied above. Even a bare buffer tube of any length =SBR.
I don't think that's correct... Other attorneys have pointed out that a simple removal of any brace would NOT then still be classified as a SBR..

But in any case, my bet is it'll be litigated out of existence..

Does the end of that buffer tube have "surface area"?

I will note here that the title of the document states the use of a stabilizing brace.
“Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces”


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I think I posted this for clarification in the other thread. I found it in a document entitled "PowerPoint Training on Final Rule 2021R-08F" under Other Resources on the ATF's page for Rule 2021R-08F. Regardless, one should be concerned that this couldn't be clarified in the 293 page rule document...

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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Originally Posted by Armednfree
This is a test. A test of compliance.





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Originally Posted by kingston
I think I posted this for clarification in the other thread. I found it in a document entitled "PowerPoint Training on Final Rule 2021R-08F" under Other Resources on the ATF's page for Rule 2021R-08F. Regardless, one should be concerned that this couldn't be clarified in the 293 page rule document...

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What about the little foam think on the end of the buffer tube?

Is it necessary for the proper function of the firearm?

Would it's "surface area" make it work better against the shoulder?


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by kingston
I think I posted this for clarification in the other thread. I found it in a document entitled "PowerPoint Training on Final Rule 2021R-08F" under Other Resources on the ATF's page for Rule 2021R-08F. Regardless, one should be concerned that this couldn't be clarified in the 293 page rule document...

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What about the little foam think on the end of the buffer tube?

Is it necessary for the proper function of the firearm?

Would it's "surface area" make it work better against the shoulder?
Are you getting boosted every 6 or 8 weeks? J&J?


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Interesting take by GOA.


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I just want to say that if you're broke enough that $200 stamps are what gets you on your knees, just sell the effing "pistols" and buy a case of ramen noodles.

You're just supposed to lick the boot, not deep throat the damn thing.....

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It's sort if ironic that our Government, despite it's unparalleled size and funding, is no longer capable consistently maintaining the definitions of simple terms like "man", "woman", "pistol", "rifle", etc...


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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/...e-to-criminalize-pistol-braced-firearms/

Aidan Johnston, GOA’s Director of Federal Affairs, added:

“President Biden just initiated the largest federal gun registration scheme in our nation’s history without even the passage of a new law. GOA is actively working with Congress to pass a resolution blocking this rule under the Congressional Review Act, and we continue to lobby lawmakers to support Rep. Clyde and Sen. Marshall’s Stop Harassing Owners of Rifles Today (SHORT) Act. If President Biden will not sign such legislation, then Congress must defund this rogue agency.”


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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Just FYI as of 4:15 PM today...

Final Rule 2021R-08F has not published.

https://www.federalregister.gov/


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