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without feed and vet bills...

https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...-v-222-rem-20-gauge.cfm?gun_id=102181021

I'd have a new turkey gun.


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Thing being what they are, that price seems reasonable to me.


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Im glad i never fell into that rabbit hole of collecting model 24's.It probably wont last long now ! grin

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I'd be all over it if I had the money.
Virginia allows rifle for turkey.


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That would be a slick turkey rig in a state that allows both rifle and shotgun.

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Nice that the state "allows" us to hunt.

Damn good of them.


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I've yet to live in one where turkeys can be plugged via rifle. 🤷‍♂️

Well before my time, but there was no open deer season here for about 60 years. No deer either, so the two sorta went hand in hand.

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Whitetail deer were basically eliminated from Nebraska by 1900. Seeing one was cause for a newspaper article. Turkeys were wiped out by 1915, antelope, elk, pretty much every wild game animal gone.

Deer hunting here didn't resume until 1945 when 277 deer were harvested.
Turkey weren't reintroduced until much later. By 1966 we were up to a whopping 3000 birds statewide. I didn't see a wild one until mid-80's.

More than happy that states manage hunting limits.


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There were no deer here in my immediate area from the 1890s until the 1960s when they were reintroduced from out of state stock. IL's first decade or so of modern deer seasons in the 50s/60s were restricted to just a few areas. It was the late 70s before the entire state had an open season again.

My folks both grew up around here, and my Dad has said he never saw a wild deer until he was into his early 20s.

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I have one of those and wound not sell it for that price.

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To those who use these O/U's - how well do they shoot for you? I had one, briefly, many years ago and gave up in disgust and sold it. The rifle barrel was lucky to put three into less than 3MOA, and trying to use it like a shotgun was an exercise in frustration. Maybe I was expecting too much out of it.

Turkeys were unknown in western Maryland when I was a kid. By the late 70's they were making a comeback and by 1990 were thick as fleas, all thanks to savvy game management. We can use rifles on them in the fall season, but shotguns only in the spring. Given that scenario I would carry a .22 Hornet in the fall, or a hotter cartridge handloaded down a lot - no point in destroying Little Jimmy's share of breast meat with a high velocity fragmenting bullet! A turkey hunting fool I know in PA has killed enough turkeys to feed the 1st Infantry Division. His rifle of choice: an old woebegone Mossberg .22WMR. (Seems sacrilegious to whack such a magnificent bird with such a plebian device!)


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Don't you shoot them in the head with a rifle?


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Kansas was the same. 1st deer season was 1965. Turkeys introduced around the sate in the 60's and doing well.

Turkey is shotgun, only. Extra full choke (Turkey choke), head shots.


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Originally Posted by wyo1895
Don't you shoot them in the head with a rifle?

Certainly strive to, but the bobblehead of a turkey isn't always doable, plus it's a pretty small target to hit beyond point blank range unless you have a steady rest. He won't go far with a bullet poked through his chest.


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When you are using a combination gun on a turkey hunt, the shotgun barrel is used for head shots out to about 40 yards and the rifle barrel holding center mass from 40ish yards out to as far as you want to shoot.

Shooing at a wild turkey's head with a rifle barrel is about like flipping nickels and shooting at them with a Colt 45.

Mathematically... it is possible...

But unlikely.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Whitetail deer were basically eliminated from Nebraska by 1900. Seeing one was cause for a newspaper article. Turkeys were wiped out by 1915, antelope, elk, pretty much every wild game animal gone.

Deer hunting here didn't resume until 1945 when 277 deer were harvested.
Turkey weren't reintroduced until much later. By 1966 we were up to a whopping 3000 birds statewide. I didn't see a wild one until mid-80's.

More than happy that states manage hunting limits.

Similar deal here in PA Rory. By the end of he 1800’s very few deer remained in PA. The Pennsylvania Game Commission was established in 1895 to protect the states wildlife resources. ‘State Game Lands’ we’re established and deer brought in from Michigan and Kentucky to restock the herd. In 2001 the PA deer herd was estimated at 1.5 million animals, about 30 deer per square mile.


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Sorta related.... Before I moved to northern MN I thought there would be moose everywhere. Lots of moose related names around here. It turns out there are very few of them left. Kind of a big deal when you see one. Plenty it deer now though.

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What a coincidence. I know that guy. Nice guy. Dabbled and collected for years.


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Originally Posted by damnesia
Sorta related.... Before I moved to northern MN I thought there would be moose everywhere. Lots of moose related names around here. It turns out there are very few of them left. Kind of a big deal when you see one. Plenty it deer now though.

Yeah, I was born and lived 16 years over 2 stints up there and saw a grand total of two moose. Are the moose tags there still a once in a lifetime draw?

There were also caribou once upon a time too, but they were pretty much gone by the 1930s.

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Originally Posted by Rick99
Kansas was the same. 1st deer season was 1965. Turkeys introduced around the sate in the 60's and doing well.

Turkey is shotgun, only. Extra full choke (Turkey choke), head shots.

growing up in S.W. Ks. 1st sighting was early 60's, the word got out about all the alfalfa, wheat, corn ect and the population sored, now the drought has really taken its toll along with disease

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