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What is the problem with newer model turbo's in the Dodge trucks? We've lost 3 in 2019 and newer trucks! My old 2009 just keeps on going. We've never had turbo problems, until recently.
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Variable vane actuator is what normally fails, especially if you don't use your exhaust brake all the time. The actuator will burn itself out trying to overcome the sliding collar if it is carboned up from underuse. The turbocharger does not normally fail, and the actuators can be replaced separately. City Diesel has them for a much better price than the Holset available from the dealers, and the City Diesel ones are plug and play. They don't need calibration.
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Variable vane actuator is what normally fails, especially if you don't use your exhaust brake all the time. The actuator will burn itself out trying to overcome the sliding collar if it is carboned up from underuse. The turbocharger does not normally fail, and the actuators can be replaced separately. City Diesel has them for a much better price than the Holset available from the dealers, and the City Diesel ones are plug and play. They don't need calibration. My partner has a late '07 Cummins and I have an identical '08. His turbo went out a year or so ago. His mechanic told him to always keep the exhaust brake on as it blows the crud out of the turbo. So, now I do it, too.
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My '09 doesn't even HAVE an exhaust brake - so, I'm unfamiliar with the new ones. When I hauled in "the patch" we used Jakes, consistently. But, that's large trucks and loads.
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Using an exauhst brake to fix a turbo issue is fkn stupid at best.
All modern diesel trucks need turbo maintenance or upgrades.
Talk to a diesel truck specialist about upgrading the turbo for severe duty.
Each truck brand has specific companies that specializes in fixing known issues and proven kits to fix the problem.
Rebuilding/upgrading a turbo is fairly easy.
I upgraded/rebuilt mine using a kc turbos kit. My problem, was boost wasn't coming on low enough in the rpms crawling 4000 lb loads of firewood at low speeds.
Climbing steep passes at highway speeds towing heavy, boost was blowing off too soon.
Both issues were easy fixes.
Don't count on original equipment in diesel trucks to always work properly. Don't count on OEM replacements to fix the problem either. upgrade it.
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My '09 doesn't even HAVE an exhaust brake - so, I'm unfamiliar with the new ones. When I hauled in "the patch" we used Jakes, consistently. But, that's large trucks and loads. Dodge made them a factory option starting in late '07. Before that, it was a very expensive add on. Jakes are compression brakes that run off the compression valves. In pickups, Cummins uses exhaust brakes that run off the exhaust valves. Jakes are stronger and brake better but are twice as noisy. You can use an exhaust brake in town and no one even notices. Every town has signs saying no engine/compression/exhaust brakes. An engine brake covers both types but compression and exhaust brake signs are specific. I've wondered what would happen if I got a ticket with my exhaust brake when the sign specified a compression brake.
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If you don't use a diesel as a diesel (consistent heavy loads for longer distances), look into a "diesel force" cleaning franchise. It's basically a cleaning rinse for the insides of a diesel, particularly the after treatment system (EGR, DPF, etc). Far from cheap, but way cheaper than the consequences of a carbon choked engine. http://www.diesel-force.com/dieselforce
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