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Saskatchewanians are humans anyway, eh? http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/wildlife/wolves/story/9469827p-9380218c.htmlSo much for the wishful thinking of the wolf repopulators. At least it may give people a bit better chance of defending themselves without recrimination. The life lost would be less in vain.
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It didn't say if he was packin' or not, but anybody that goes in the woods, especially where those wolves were becoming less fearful, without a firearm of some sort.......not wise....me thinks.
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New York City needs a few packs! They can have ours.
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The feds have assured us that the wolves in Wy.,Mt., and Idaho would never do such a thing as they are not meat eaters and never kill for fun. So we sre safe.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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well somebody's gotta give the mtn lions a little competition right ? there are too many hikers in the woods for the cats alone!
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With all the devastating wildfires in CA, they surely lost a bunch of wildlife. I suggest Alaska send them a few hundred wolves to help bring the numbers up again. A year ago the Lab and I were closely surrounded (20 yards and less) by a pack of 5 or 6 wolves in dense brush on a USFS trail. Since I had yelled twice at the dog, out of sight around the next bend, to return, they certainly knew I was there and what I was. When a young bitch (pup of the year) then came out on the trail and invited my dog off to "play", the .260 put a period to the encounter. Maybe they did just want to play, or maybe they had doggie snacks in mind, or maybe a little of "the other white meat". Dunno. Didn't care to find out. Weaponless, I'd have been up a tree like a squirrel. Carry enough gun.
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That's the "me thinks" part.....
Perfect.....nicely played.
What about lightweight scatterguns with no plugs holdin' 000 buck? I've always thought that might be a very effective/useful weapon for such encounters
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It would be about perfect. OO might even be better.
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Hitten' them with anything is better than missen' with everything.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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I love that pic!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Mr. Carnegie was 22 years old. Doubtful he was sick and weak. Wolves only attack the sick and weak, right?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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Yeah............................right. las you did good in my opinion!
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Mr. Carnegie was 22 years old. Doubtful he was sick and weak. Wolves only attack the sick and weak, right? And the old, the young, the slow, the dumb, and the unlucky (wrong place, wrong time).
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.........and the unarmed......
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Men, Wolves definitely kill simply to kill. They have decimated the Elk in Bridger and up Greys River and at the same time up to just recently been on the endangered species list which meant simply if you shoot one and get caught you're going to jail. Elk calves and Mule Deer fawns and yearlings as well as Shiras and any livestock they can find unattended are all prime targets. I don't think they would have a problem eating one of us. Guides that hunt in the area just outside of Yellowstone tell me that they will eat from the front end of a kill back and only eat (in most cases) part of what they kill. If that area were more urban than it is there would be more human contact and we would be reading stories about residents of Jackson Hole or Alpine getting eaten by wolves. Kill'em where you find em.
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Las, good shooting, too bad you didn't get all of them.
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They had a two hour special on tv about this on one of those Hunter and Hunted marathons over a year ago. I posted it. The biologists on the show said they didn't know it it was wolf or bear because the body was moved around and they said wolves don't do that. Bears they said drag their food to a secluded place and eat it. They thought the wolves could have scavenged remains of the bear kill. Now the wolves are to blame again. Will we ever know?
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There's a huge difference in wolf and bear tracks but quite a number of easy chair biologists don't seem to understand that. Quite often the feds in our part of the country send a coyote carcass to their lab in Bozeman, Mt., to determine whether it is a WOLF OR COYOTE. Pretty amazing. I watched wolves drag a cow elk about twenty five yards one time. No apparent reason why but they have their own reasons.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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Campfire members: As an ex-Saskatchewanian, I thank Mr. Klikitarik for the vote of confidence that we are human, (smiling here!) I can speak to a couple points with personal experience. While the wolf issue tends to bring out a lot of emotional debate, I believe we can look at the facts fairly objectively in this case.
It would be extremely unusual for a bear to be out in the snow that late in the year in northern Saskatchewan. Try to book a bear hunt there for mid November. I have never seen bear tracks in the snow in Saskatchewan, and never spoke with anyone who did. In most years, it is generally very cold up there by the first week of November.
The coroner�s inquest confirmed the bear hibernation issue. We can only speculate as to why Mr. Paul Paquet would entertain the theory that a bear would be up in the snow, a full month later than normal.
We had another wolf attack this August on the BC coast, north of Bella Bella. In that incident a kayaker fended off a wolf attack with a 4� blade knife. He disabled the wolf and stopped the attack, but was seriously injured himself in the ensuing melee. That was, if I am not wrong, the 2nd attack by a wolf here in BC in the past 7 years.
I must conclude from the evidence that some wolves do in fact attack humans in a predatory fashion, just as some cougars and bears do. That said I do not believe that it is an epidemic. While I understand that the odds of my being involved in a predatory attack are lower than for example getting into a traffic accident, to deny that the possibility exists, is in my view illogical.
All the best on the Thanksgiving weekend to you all!
Regards, Dwayne
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BC30, you are entirely right, However.. the hype forever has been that wolves haven't been implicated in attacks on humans (unless the were sick). The sound you are hearing is bubbles bursting. I suspect Mr.Pacquet would rather saw his leg off with a dull butterknife than admit a wolf or wolves were the culprits.
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