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DFC,

I figured you would do one of two things. Sure enough, you did both. First, I thought you would deny that you ever said that you paid more in taxes than I probably make. You denied it and that is why I quoted you.

Secondly, I thought that you would back away from your statement as soon as you were challenged on it. You did. Quite the cowardly act. No-one expects anything less of you.

Sheite, I went from ankle biter to charity case while out moving my daughters cattle. Guess I need to see whats in the safe I can sell. I'll find something, nothing of mine is worth BIG bucks! That sign should be at our place, bur then we just have a cattle gap in the drive.

Hey, I'm not covering for you and then having you pay as well. I've got it, you buy the beer if you ever get up here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Then you might wish you had paid the $100. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Oh, well, off to my evening job. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Your on! Should have been here today, my daughter tried out her "Supergirl" trick, horse went one way and she had a short flight and crummy landing going the other way. Damn good thing the pasture is flooded and the ground like a sponge. She is getting too old for them kind of stunts (she's 38). Boy it hurt just watching! Should see how fast I can cross a pasture full of water in the 85 4X4 Ford with a gooseneck trailer hooked to it. Glad it was empty.

I sure wish I had some of those pastures full of water you're talking about, dry was what it used to be up here, before it quit raining. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

OK, moron I'll play your little game. Do you want me to cover the $10.00 someone put up? Or do you want me to cover the 100 the bug killer put up? Or do you want me to cover the $50.00 you put up? Or do you want me to cover the total of $160.00 that it would add up to IF all you big deals actually did pay the NRA. And that would the $0.00 that Ready On The Right put up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> That about covers it, right genius?


Dan

Thats right, Duhhhh !


Dan

Are you serious? Below is a copy of what I said, have your mother read it and explain it to you. If mommies not home try the nice neighbor lady. You sure as hell can't read. Do you understand the meaning of MIGHT? Its not absolute!

"Re: 700BDL .30-06 (1983? vintage) [Re: Longbob]
#187523 - 08/23/03 09:08 AM Edit Reply Quote



I'm not interested in trying to play little games with the tax collectors in this country. I owe them and they are paid on time. And I might add, I might just pay more in taxes than you make. You want to live here, pay your fair share of the taxes it takes to run this great country.

Dan

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Twist the facts and put a spin on the truth."

Dan

No you don't, I am talking standing water in 85% of it and more rain on it's way. Ruined the hay before we could even cut it and the pasture is so wet the grass is dying and being replaced by catails, no kidding. Has not been this wet in about 25 years. Southwest Florida is basicly a swamp that has been drained, well it's coming back with a vengance with all the building going on, new home on built up lots causing the older places to fill up with water like it used to be.

A) guess you're too stupid to figure it out from what was clearly written.

B) You're obviously too proud of your money to donate it to good causes, like the right to keep your arms OR preservation of habitat.

I'm not a regular big donor, but I did send a check for $1,000 to the RMEF a couple years ago (can prove it too -- wanna bet?). How about you match that? Do something good with your incredible (yeah, right) wealth...

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,



You didn't miss the election. There wasn't one. I never ran for the office. Will Rogers never had an internet to post his affairs on. If he had I would tell him the same thing I told Frankie. If you don't want other people managing your affairs, don't conduct them on the net. Now don't take offence,... I didn't. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



Frankie, Frankie Frankie,



I've been gone all day, just got home. When I read where you thought the $1 bet was a very good idea, I almost fell out of the chair. After a couple of stiff belts, I have regained my composure, and am now able to reply, though my hands are still shaking. I will try to continue. Frankly, Frankie I though you would be the one to kill the $1 bet. You continue to amaze me.



Charlie seems worried someone will confuse him and Frankie for friends if the bet is only $1. Somehow, I just don't think there is much danger of that. I think it was BigStick who said somthing like, "I don't see a group hug in the near future". So, is there a certain level that won't be confused as a friendly bet. $10, $50, $100, $1000, pick a number. What ever it is, why not do it? Personally, I thought the NRA bet was a good idea. Since it looks like the $100k bet is out the window, you guys are going to have to come to terms on what the new bet is,... or not. At any rate, this back and forth slashing is going nowhere fast.



So, as AFP pointed out, it all boils down to Charlie finding that paper. Untill that happens, it's a stailmate. Either way, it won't have a tremendous impact on my life. And if anybody doesn't like what I just said, you can drop out of the Troublsom1 fan club, and kiss my fuzzy butt. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I have learned a couple on interesting things from watching this thread now, from being marginally involved earlier, and from a couple of other recent events. Maybe this can help some of you understand what is going on here a little better. Or, maybe I am the only one amazed by the level of behavior being exhibited here.

In general, I (and many others here) argue/fight/debate from a position of strength. Our goal is to come in with full honesty, not use deception, have our ducks in a row, do not believe in or respond to "taunting", and rely on objectivity as much as possible. We are concerned about finding the objective truth wherever it leads. We often qualify our statements to make sure we are being as accurate and truthful as possible. In fact, a big goal is to be accurate and truthful always. We usually try to be peacable. No, we are not perfect and don't always get it right, but what I have described is our overarching philosophy.

Gambler's seem to approach things differently. There is much posturing and taunting. The goal is to win, and to win the opponent must lose. The strategy seems to be an attempt to manuever the opponent into a position where he/she is vulnerable and force them to make a mistake. Deception and taunts are acceptable tools in the gambler's arsenal. Gambler's seem to rely much on subjectivity, as they are always using their "gut feel" to "size up" an opponent. Being peacable vs being confrontational are just tools that are used to gain/deny an advantage.

In short, the methods and techniques successful gamblers seem to use are the opposite of how truth seeking debate/discussion is conducted. The two approaches do not mix. As such, it is obvious why many of us here are astounded by the way this cockfight is being conducted. It is also why I had harsh words for the participants in this thread earlier.

Personally, the gambler's approach disgusts me, but I can now somewhat understand why gambler's employ these techniques.

Blaine

Blaine,
Very good. Well said, and quite accurate.

By the way, I don't think anyone is obligated to pay the NRA $100. Though I'm sure they would put the money to good use. That too, was only a suggestion.

It must be four or five times now I've been told to mind my own business on this thread. I thought we cleared this up long ago. Boys, this is the internet. Anything you post is subject to be commented on by anyone who pleases. Everyone needs to understand, this is NOT private stuff. You may not like some of the coments. If you want to keep it private, use PM's or email.

Contrary to what the village idiot posted, I've been just as truthful in this thread as I am in all of my statements of fact, opinions are just that, opinions. I haven't postured or done anything but say what I did. I did it, and that's that. Anyone who knows me knows it's true, and anyone who doesn't can either bet or guess. The only reason I supposed the bet was over with was that when I gave most of the details, down to the name of the guy and his company who sold the coin for me it would take a stone cold idiot to make the bet at that point. But to go over old ground, there was never going to be a bet, because D.F.C. was never going to put up the money if I did, even if he's got it, which is questionable. To quote Amarillo Slim, "Guessers are losers."



And anyone who believes, after all of the follow ups, that D.F.C.was ever even considering putting up the money and betting if I went to the trouble and personal expense of actually formalizing a bet, is a certifiable moron.



Speaking of that, Blaine, if you want to bet a $1000 bucks that I didn't sell a coin for more than 95K, payable to the NRA, you can just send a certified check to John and I'll send him an equal certified check and my proof. I've never met him, but I believe he is fair, after all, the NRA gets a grand either way. Otherwise, you can keep guessing, because you have proven that you are the village idiot.



And, while I'm on the topic, still want to bet on those ambient WMD, payable to the NRA, more time has passed your chances must be getting better right? I'm offering 10/1 per day, but it must be in advance, no past posting.

Way too much. You guys have harshed my mellow. Later.

To all, minus D.F.C.:

You know this has been interesting in a couple of ways. I've had a few people that half-way know me believe me, and a few others fall in on "my" side just because of their understandable dislike for D.F.C.. But, I've been posting on this site for a couple of years, have done business here and on AR with dozens and dozens and probably more than a hundred people, including DBBill who wondered if he would buy a gun from me, maybe he wouldn't, but I bought one from him, sight unseen, for $4200. And, in all of those transactions and posts, I defy anyone to post ONE instance of where I didn't do EXACTLY what I said I would do and sometimes more or one instance of where I lied in any fashion, not counting obvious jokes. And yet, I mention a relatively minor sum, to me, involving a coin and all of a sudden my credibility is in doubt by some of the mob. Just one final example, I recently popped off and bought a hunt that I probably will not be able to use, I didn't have to pay for it, and it was not nickels and dimes, but I SAID I would do it and I did. I was brought up in the oil patch and the old South where your word is your bond, the expression I heard hundreds of times when I was a kid was, "you do what you say you will do, if it takes hide, hair, and all". I still remember that, and I still do it. And anyone who says otherwise is a lying SOB and if they were here in person we could discuss it further. I hate to keep repeating myself, but I did what I said I did and that's that. Believe it or not.

DFC
Still no comeback on the size of your bear? For one claiming to never lie your story is growing more shakey all the time. The bear is not close to the size you claim and calling me names does not and cannot change that [color:"red"] [/color] FACT [color:"black"] [/color] !

You hurt my feelers when you ignore my pleas like this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Yeah, right!!! LOL
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Charlie,
You always do exactly what you say you will do? Yeah, right! How come those two gorgeous walnut blanks showed up at my door unannounced? How can you say you do exactly what you say you'll do when you do things like that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

It is sad so many chimed in without a clue about what the bet was and how things were being twisted. But the mud on your boots will wash off (if you ever get any rain <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />) the mud on some others will be there for awhile...
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