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My opinion is you just have an oversized chamber. How does an oversize chamber occur?
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Its in the manufacturing process but I can't tell you why it happens. I have noted a lot over the years in shooting Winchester levers in my earlier days.
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OH, and to add to this. I just went down to put the brass I took the picture of back in the Remington box and decided to check the other brass.
1) The bulge is more prominent on one side of the all the fired brass. One side is worst, and opposite that side is almost flat. 2) Remington brass must be thinner/weaker, because this malady is worse on the Remington cases than it is on the Federal loads I tried. Both are basically ballistic twins based on the info on the side of the box. While we all know that pressure curves are different for different powders, I doubt there is much difference between the two.
All this leads me to believe it's an out of spec chamber. Makes me want to try harder to get the barrel off for a chamber inspection. I have a 99 takedown in 300 and the fired brass is just as you describe. I only reload the brass one time
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My opinion is you just have an oversized chamber. How does an oversize chamber occur? That's my question as well because I used to have a 99 EG that also had this problem. Both of the 99's I've owned have had it. My sons 99F does not bulge the brass.
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Its in the manufacturing process but I can't tell you why it happens. I have noted a lot over the years in shooting Winchester levers in my earlier days. My 1899A 303 has a very oversized chamber. From the head to the shoulder is fine, but from the shoulder foreward through the throat is huge. I don't get case head issues with it, but it blows the shoulders way out of brass, and you can put a 32 cal bullet in the fired case mouths. Resizing takes some elbow grease.
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My opinion is you just have an oversized chamber. If you look closely at the two cases you posted you will see the case diameter has increased during firing back to the point where the wall thickness increases at the base.
I also don't think any of the photos in this thread show signs of head separation other than the diagram of how to check for it.
With heads space problems on a rimless case the upper case and shoulder expand and hold to the chamber walls. The rear of the case moves back to the bolt face which causes the brass to stretch length ways. Wherever the brass is the thinnest you will see the beginning of a shiny ring which as it gets worse will appear to be stretching within the ring. See the diagram in the above posting. So we are in agreement. The operative question here is: How best to resize the brass? Use the fake shoulder trick OR get a small base resizer die (that is, if I can find one)?
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I think you only need a small base die if your current one will not size the case so that the case will chamber.
I would back the die off an extra 1/4 turn and see if the case chambers. Work from there.
What you don't want is to find that you went too far (didn't size enough) after you loaded a bunch of rounds.
Since the chamber is a little out of round you might want to test your sized brass at 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees.
Keep us posted.
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